re: 1991 was the last year a pac 12 team won the national title

reggie's sophomore year, he was on the cover of a magazine with his new $20K car, jewelry and designer clothes.

usc turned the other way. even your current ad hayden yell at the refs said that when he was broght in. said usc needed a cultural change.

the entire usc athletics department was looking the other way. basketball and football program alike.

usc cheated.

usc got the recruits because the recruits saw that usc didnt care about the payments.

usc benefitted.

then usc got caught.

and the usc fans are still in denial that their program was built off the back of cheating and breaking the rules.

LSU played 7 top 25 teams that year!!!!!!

USC: 2

talk now isn't really about 2003

the only people saying usc won in 2003 or even split are the usc fans. usc agreed to the bcs. usc didnt win the bcs. no champs for them. and yes, lsu would have destroyed that usc team had they gotten there.

we really focusing on 2004 and how usc's cheating cost them the pac 12's only championship since 1990 or 1991.

Shite you are stupid.

And which has been documented to happen at so many schools - almost forever.

Have you not read a single article about the USC situation since 2005?

This whole agent thing has been exposed as a massive college epidemic forever.

Billy Cannon signed with an agent 1 month before their final game at LSU during the National Champ year in 1958. Well documented.

You are trying to make an exception out of an epidemic and using the false reasoning the NCAA used.

They acted like it was unique to USC...more rational people have LONG since stated (all over the media - who disagree with you) that this is a common problem regardless of the institution and you can't prevent it.

You can't monitor players' lives 24 hours a day - who live miles away.

Get a life.

Parents got a house.. dunno about payments.

Parents got a house.. dunno about payments.

SMU did it a little worse than USC and got the Death Penalty.

Don't go spouting shite that every team cheats with no evidence.

Ted Miller: Yes, I have read both reports.

You wrote: "USC used impermissible benefits to recruit." Wrong.

You wrote: "Then the university hindered the investigation at every turn." Wrong.

You made two points. Both were wrong. And if you had read the USC report, or really any news stories about USC's NCAA violations, you would know that.

"While the mainstream media has been trying hard to push the 'USC fought the NCAA' meme, it's absolutely not true. USC’s former student athletes, and the agents and representatives therein, may not have worked with the NCAA, but the University absolutely did. That is even expressed (apparently) in the Notice of Allegations, where the NCAA thanked USC for their help and support. In fact, pages 56 and 57 of the NCAA Public Infractions Report."

So ... facts, you know?

How did the "USC didn't cooperate" storyline begin? Well, it likely emerged from a perception of USC's self-defense. USC administrators found it difficult to stomach the idea that they were supposed to know what was going on in San Diego with a player's parents and men who were: 1) unaffiliated with the school; 2) not even actual agents who might be known in the industry.

Yes, USC was not obsequious. Yes, USC, in fact, aggressively defended itself. Yes, USC, in fact, probably hurt it self by actually WINNING THE ARGUMENT.

Let me share a story that will annoy USC fans but many will find interesting. During a flight delay last year, I was cornered at an airport by an administrator from a major program outside the Pac-12. We started talking. Turned out he agreed with just about all my points. (He just didn't like USC.)

He told me, after some small talk and off-the-record, that "everybody" thought USC got screwed. He said that he thought the NCAA was trying to scare everyone with the ruling, but subsequent major violations cases put it in a pickle.

Then he told me that USC was punished for its "USC-ness," that while many teams had closed down access -- to media, to fans, etc. -- USC under Pete Carroll was completely open, and that was widely resented. There was a widespread belief the national media fawned on USC because of this. Further, more than a few schools thought that the presence of big-time celebrities, such as Snoop Dogg and Will Ferrell, at practices and at games constituted an unfair recruiting advantage for the Trojans.

It wasn't against the rules, but everyone hated it. This, as he assessed his own smell test, was a subtext of the so-called atmosphere of noncompliance that the NCAA referred to -- an atmosphere that oddly yielded very few instances of noncompliance around the football program even after a four-year NCAA investigation.

But you'll note that Snoop and Will are no longer hanging around USC, which now has strict access guidelines.

LINK

copying and pasting the thoughts of a usc blogger (ted miller)?

the facts are in display in this photo






and then all the receipts, phone calls, etc found here

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushprobe