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re: Interstellar is a masterpiece say insiders not related to Paramount

Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:45 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:45 am to
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Will that establish (or solidify) Nolan as one of the great film directors of all time?






I'm pretty pumped for this film, but he has a lot of work to do.

He's still made under 10 movies, only 3 of which are legitimately great films. (9 movies to be exact)

Kubrick made what 14, with probably 10 true to form great movies.

The pace of current directors is too slow to match up with some of the greats. And there's almost too much "stuff" out there for anyone to be truly innovative. Nolan can get there one day. One day.

But I figure the fans will shoot him up to Hitchcock status quickly if they don't already.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:50 am to
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No need for that. That's why I asked the question.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:57 am to
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I'm pretty pumped for this film, but he has a lot of work to do.

He's still made under 10 movies, only 3 of which are legitimately great films. (9 movies to be exact)

Kubrick made what 14, with probably 10 true to form great movies.

The pace of current directors is too slow to match up with some of the greats. And there's almost too much "stuff" out there for anyone to be truly innovative. Nolan can get there one day. One day.

But I figure the fans will shoot him up to Hitchcock status quickly if they don't already.


Nolan's Superhero movies weren't great, so he has to overcome that. I enjoy Nolan movies, but he is far from the greatest director of all time. Not even the greatest directer currently.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:59 am to
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He's still made under 10 movies, only 3 of which are legitimately great films.


Memento, tDKR, Inception?
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:37 am to
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He's still made under 10 movies, only 3 of which are legitimately great films. (9 movies to be exact)

Kubrick made what 14, with probably 10 true to form great movies.

If Nolan never made another film, I'd still put him ahead of Kubrick. First, that quartet of The Prestige, inception, Memento, and Dark Knight is outstanding. It's not just four films, but arguably four of the best films of his era (Memento, I would argue, is the best film of the post-studio era).

Throw in a great first effort (The Following), an underrated near miss (Insomnia), and two big-budget success to varying degrees (Batman Begins and DK Rises). He's only been making films for a little over a decade, so it seems absurd to complain he has made four great films and four very good ones (OK, 3... DK Rises is a bit of a mess)

Kubrick made 12 films over 45 years. I can't even figure which 10 you think are true to form great, but that's wildly overstating things and even one of his greatest films, Spartacus, he had little control over. I'd give him 4 near perfect great films (2001, Paths of Glory, Dr. Strangelove, and the Shining) I get that Barry Lyndon has its extreme partisans, though it now symbolizes to me everything I don't like about Kubrick. I wouldn't say his other films are bad or anything. He's still Kubrick, after all. But Clockwork Orange is so over the top, and really suffers from deleting the 21st chapter, and Lolita is not nearly as good as its rep, and is nowhere near the source material. Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut are both interesting more for their flaws than what they get right.

It seems your judging Nolan on a much harsher curve than Kubrick here, and I'm not sure how one can argue that Kubrick was more prolific. I'd already take Nolan's career over Kubrick's, mainly because I've fallen out with his dehumanizing worldview, but I admit that's a personal aesthetic choice.
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