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Manual or automatic tranny in a 4WD?

Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:06 am
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7751 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:06 am
Since the manual transmission seems to be going the way of the dinosaur, I was wondering which transmission most of yall prefer. My old CJ5 had an 8 speed manual and so does my old workhorse Ram 1500. I prefer a manual transmission for off road and going up these mountain trails, and driving in snow and ice. I have more "control" and a better "feel" for the terrain in a manual than I have in an automatic. Plus, to me, a manual in off road conditions seems to have better traction. I wonder if, in a test, identical trucks, same driver, same setup, same tires, which vehicle would have better traction: auto or manual. I could be wrong, been wrong lots of times, but I'm putting my money on the manual.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:25 am to
I'd get a manual but bridges scare me
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:36 am to
I have had both in newer jeep wranglers - preferred the auto, much easier to hill climb with 2 pedals than 3.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61616 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:39 am to
Auto's are so good now I'd take an auto 9 times out of 9
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32121 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:34 am to
I don't really go looking for trails to tear up. Off roading I do is pretty much whatever it takes to take care of a few things on my land or at the camp. I need decent clearance, good tires, and four wheel drive. I prefer an automatic for off roading - especially if it involves towing.

The newer Silverado, Suburban and Tahoe have hill start assist and hill descent control. I think Jeep's Grand Cherokee and most Land Cruisers have that as well. It seems to eliminate the drawback of an automatic for most practical off road stituations - especially with a trailer in tow.

20 years ago I'd have said that a manual transmission, manual lockers, and manual transfer cases were ideal. Today the newer systems, newer automatics are just as good and just as reliable....and the new electronic aids give you plenty of control over what the car is doing. My Silverado can also start off in 2nd gear with the automatic if I'm worried about breaking traction, I'm almost certain that the Fords and Toyotas do that as well.

I don't see as much of an advantage of a manual anymore these days.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 10:42 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:51 am to
I love driving a manual and prefer towing with one.

If you want to break stuff, manual>auto

Otherwise, auto with a manual shift option is the shite.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57344 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:52 am to
quote:

tranny


Unfortunately, this word no longer means "transmission."

But, to answer your question, manny.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:25 am to
Being able to hold a gear is great. Shifting while trying to spin the tires in the mud is not. Some autos will hold a gear, but a lot of them shift regardless what you do to the stick. If you know what you're doing with a manual in the mud, it is fine. I choose manual because I don't go through long mud holes that require more than one gear
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:39 pm to
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BFIV





quote:

I prefer a manual transmission for off road and going up these mountain trails, and driving in snow and ice.



your old school like that.. not I, sir.. no way

quote:

old workhorse Ram 1500


Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:18 pm to
" My old CJ5 had an 8 speed manual". No that didn't happen from the factory and I don't know of any aftermarket ever made for this application. Another questionable "tranny"
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:24 pm to
It depends on the application. Rock crawling and trails I'd probably go manual, automatic for pretty much everything else. You have more control with a manual and more torque multiplication with an automatic. Can get manual valve bodies for just about any older automatic that's popular and they are easy enough to bolt in. Big issue is cooling and changing the fluid out on a regular basis.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:23 pm to
i got a gm350/700r4/dana 300 ready for whatever you need to throw at it/it in.

700r4 has OD which wasn't available in the th300 or th400. it's a beast of a transmission and even beastier because i put high output/input shafts in it. i also added SYE to the dana 300 and a clock ring. could be yours for whatever you're building!
Posted by warr09
Georgia by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
800 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:49 pm to
I have a 6 speed in my 2012 Rubicon JKU. Love it. I can put it in 4L and 1st and get out and walk around it while it creeps. Plus it is fun as hell to drive with the new Pentastar V6.
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