re: Hussein Obama&#39;s Sept 11, 2001 speech:

Posted by WeeWee

Member since Aug 2012

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:27 pm to TT9

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he website it came from is extremely right wing.

wow you liberals are all for free speech until it is from the other side.

Posted by genro

Member since Nov 2011

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:29 pm to baybeefeetz

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It is not apologist to say "let's not go kill all the Muslims because we're pissed off."

Straw man. He didn't have to say either extreme.

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And as for saying murderous ideologies "often" or "usually" arise I'm poor places where people are ignorant and helpless, how is that not true?

I didn't say it wasn't true. It doesn't explain all madness. This was the aftermath of a specific tragedy. When a family member is murdered, you don't explain it away in socioeconomic and political terms. That's entirely inappropriate.

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The shiftiness of a country is a condition that allows the murderous ideology to gestate and flourish.

It contributes. Again, beside the point.

This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:31 pm

Posted by Godfather1

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:29 pm to WeeWee

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wow you liberals are all for free speech until it is from the other side.

Inconvenient truths.

Posted by Da Sheik

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Member since Sep 2007

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:29 pm to asurob1

"Breitbart".

Don't worry about freedom of the press, even if you disagree with the content. Obama/Democrat Party and the State have full compliance of the IRS to attack any American citizen/company that disagrees with the State's political philosophy.

Posted by Scoop

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:34 pm to TT9

TT9, you are becoming a parody.

Posted by baybeefeetz

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:34 pm to genro

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When a family member is murdered, you don't explain it away in socioeconomic and political terms. That's entirely inappropriate.

Look, many people try to be bigger and more circumspect than just massaging the obvious impulse. What should he have said, that Islam is to blame? That they hate our freedom? What do you want him to say? We must go find these terrorist killers and obliterate them? Why not say it all?

Posted by genro

Member since Nov 2011

61788 posts

Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:41 pm to baybeefeetz

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What should he have said, that Islam is to blame?

No.

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That they hate our freedom?

No.

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What do you want him to say?

Whatever he feels. It appears to me since he said this in the immediate aftermath, that he felt some degree of sympathy for the attackers.

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We must go find these terrorist killers and obliterate them?

I'm not demanding he say anything else. Other points of view are good, bad, and crazy. He could've said any of them.

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Why not say it all?

I believe he did.

Posted by Aubie Spr96

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Member since Dec 2009

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:46 pm to asurob1

While I will agree that they have an agenda, can we agree that Obama actually said what was quoted?

Every now and then, the truth hurts. It's ok.

Posted by Zahrim

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:47 pm to Scoop

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TT9, you are becoming a parody.

day late and a dollar short there bro....

Posted by JuiceTerry

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:58 pm to Da Sheik

Lotta manufactured outrage ITT.

Posted by DaGarun

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:20 pm to genro

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Well, he immediately places his particular apologist ideology on a direct tragedy. Imagine your wife is murdered, and someone said (and I quote)

I did see that. I didn't find it outrageous or anything, though. Just kinda...squishy...and generally weak.

Like last night's speech. Like his Presidency.

It is in perfect alignment with his foreign policy decisions and worldview. I don't like it, but it doesn't "shock" me or anything. I've known he sucks for a long time.

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Posted by baybeefeetz

Member since Sep 2009

31632 posts

Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:26 pm to DaGarun

Yeah, more like that. He wants to be the best everything to everybody.

Posted by John McClane

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:28 pm to TT9

You must really try to be this awful

Posted by genro

Member since Nov 2011

61788 posts

Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:33 pm to DaGarun

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did see that. I didn't find it outrageous or anything, though. Just kinda...squishy...and generally weak.

i can go along with that. Just a general bleeding heart mindset. We can test this though, right? I'd like to see if he's ever made those same kind of squishy remarks after a non-Muslim (and non-black) attack.

Posted by Meauxjeaux

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:39 pm to TT9

Posted by Big12fan

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Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:47 pm to Meauxjeaux

To the Obama haters - resist your complusion to feel bad by delving into every word of every speech that he makes.

I've got news for you - you are the victims. You are the pussies. You are the ones who are over-sensitive and you are the ones who cannot control your hatred. It is controlling you. Obama is not affected by your hatred. He is oblivious to it, but you are the one who suffers.

Get over it and move on. I've voted Republican before and will probably do it again in 2016 if Hillary is the Democrat running. Obama only has 2 years to go. Surely if some of you are as tough as you pretend, then you can endure him for that relative short period of time without pissing your panties every time he makes a speech.