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re: 9/11 After 13 years

Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:18 am to
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:18 am to
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a true American patriot, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts


Only a "true American patriot", because he fits your narrative, right?

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:18 am to
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Keep fighting the good fight man, I bet for every 10 of these ignorant assholes spewing mindless insults, there are 2 or 3 behind the scenes choosing not to ignore it but to see it for what it is. They have gotten past youtube and are digging up the real evidence that exists and is documented.
Sadly, 9/11 will end up just like the JFK assassination. It'll take 40-50 years before it becomes common knowledge that the bullshite story the government gave them was just another in the never-ending steaming pile of lies.

I can sort of understand it, though. Most Americans just go about their lives trying to eke out a living. They really don't have time to do any sort of research, so they rely on government and the media to give them the facts.

Although it still greatly pisses me off that the motherfrickers that did 9/11 and murdered all those people are going to get away with it. And not only that, but profit greatly from it.

It disgusts me beyond words.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36403 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:20 am to
Barbara Olson, who we know was a real, living human being, died on 9/11. She was on the plane that hit the Pentagon. She was flying on that plane to film Politically Incorrect in Los Angeles. She called her husband, the Solicitor General, during the hijacking. There are recorded calls of her relating the hijacking to him.

So please reconcile the life and death of Barbara Olson with your Pentagon narrative. Was she never actually on the plane, but killed by 'them' and made to look like she was on the non-existent plane. Or is she one of the conspirators who is now in hiding as part of this devious scheme. Or did Barbara Olson NEVER exist?!? Was that the most elaborate part of the plan- to fake the existence of Barbara Olson for 40 years only to 'kill' her off on 9/11?

This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:22 am to
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Barbara Olson, who we know was a real, living human being, died on 9/11. She was on the plane that hit the Pentagon. She was flying on that plane to film Politically Incorrect in Los Angeles.

So please reconcile the life and death of Barbara Olson with your Pentagon narrative. Was she never actually on the plane, but killed by 'them' and made to look like she was on the non-existent plane. Or is she one of the conspirators who is now in hiding as part of this devious scheme. Or did Barbara Olson NEVER exist?!? Was that the most elaborate part of the plan- to fake the existence of Barbara Olson for 40 years only to 'kill' her off on 9/11?



Now Now, no need to bring simple common sense into this, the idiots, er.... truthers or whatever they like to call themselves, won't know what to do with it.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36403 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:23 am to
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Although it still greatly pisses me off that the motherfrickers that did 9/11 and murdered all those people are going to get away with it. And not only that, but profit greatly from it.




You mean the same profiteers that you support every day by living here and dutifully submitting your tax returns to them? And giving money to their corporations? You're a collaborator yourself! You're a fricking sheep.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 10:26 am
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36403 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:24 am to
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I can sort of understand it, though. Most Americans just go about their lives trying to eke out a living. They really don't have time to do any sort of research, so they rely on government and the media to give them the facts.



You're right, most of us are gainfully employed. Not all of us have the free time you do in mom's basement.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:24 am to
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Can't ever even address the most amazing thing about the hundreds that would be involved with trying to take on a cover up of this magnitude.




And have remarkably kept silent for 13 years.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75392 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:26 am to
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never-ending steaming pile of lies.


Pretty much describes your posts on this subject
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:34 am to
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And have remarkably kept silent for 13 years.


Well, obviously, the person at the very top has been systematically having them all killed or killing them himself. Or herself, you know, in case it was a woman who masterminded it all.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164064 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:18 pm to
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Debris, yes. But a 757?

There was American Airlines livery all over the lawn.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Where are the pieces of the giant 757 that hit the Pentagon, did a plane that big just vaporize?


Looks like you've conveniently ignored mountains of evidence that debunk your theories, like the pieces of plane littering the area.

I see truthers spewing bullshite all the time.

1) several thousand engineers support their moonbeam theories. How about 10X that number that don't?

2) No evidence of plane found at the pentagon. There are pictures of the plane, but I suppose now the government planted them.

3) Buildings don't fall like that because of a fire. Well, you would literally have to ignore the reality of physical science, which has been used for years to debunk the moonbeam theories, to believe that.

People believe conspiracies in the modern age, where technology and media make it almost impossible to keep people silent, only because they want to.

Why would the government have to create such an elaborate ruse using hundreds, if not thousands of people, lots of time and materials when there were soooo much simpler ways to make it happen if the wanted?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Why would the government have to create such an elaborate ruse using hundreds, if not thousands of people, lots of time and materials when there were soooo much simpler ways to make it happen if the wanted?






Because, SHE'S NOT LOIS EINHORN! She's Ray Finkle! She's a man!
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

Unite humanity with a living new language.

Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.

Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Balance personal rights with social duties.

Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.

Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.


Posted by Bengal96
Dallas
Member since Sep 2005
154 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:33 pm to
Its amazing to me how everybody ignores the concrete evidence brought forth by Mr. Richard Gage and over 2000 Architecture and Engineering professionals. WTC7 is the smoking gun but nobody talks about it. Its easier to ignore it I guess. So when that douchebag said on national TV that they decided to "pull it" referring to WTC 7, what did he mean?? Thats a demolition term. How did those explosives get in a 47 story building, they installed them that day? What did they do, hook a rope to it and pull it down, give me a fricking break. LOL. Not even touched by an airplane but housed many high level government offices. And I also love how the BBC reporter is on national news reporting that WTC 7 had collapsed but it was still standing right behind her. Yep nice job, Im sure somebody has a picture of it. You investigate WTC 7 and find the truth, the rest will come out.
TX Tiger, this will be another JFK. I only hope Im alive to see justice done but probably not.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:45 pm to
Uh I think that I am familiar with the fact that you're going to ignore this particular problem, until it swims up and BITES YOU IN THE arse.

Posted by Bengal96
Dallas
Member since Sep 2005
154 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:46 pm to
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Lol there's pictures of debris all over the internet.



So what about the footage from the other 80 something security cameras around the Pentagon that we are not allowed to see?? That would clear it right up wouldn't it? Also the footage from the gas station and the hotel that had a direct line of sight of the "plane" hitting. We can't see that footage because the FBI showed up post haste right after the Pentagon was struck and confiscated the footage. Thats documented too, why not release it? Clear it right up and y'all can all go back to the Starbucks and the movie house and frick off like the rest of lazy America. Oh yeah, why did Dick Cheney order Pentagon personnel to stand down and not engage when they knew an object was heading straight at the Pentagon?? Also, documented. All the shite that doesn't add up but nobody questions it. The families of victims and first responders are sure questioning it but instead we have to see count Kardashian on the news.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:22 pm to
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The families of victims and first responders are sure questioning
What about Beverly Eckert, of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee whose husband was killed in the attacks. She refused the government's hush money and had been an advocate for truth ever since.
I say "had been" because following a visit to the White House with Obama to tell him what she knew about that day and insist upon a new investigation, she was killed in a plane crash on the way back home.

Just coincidence.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36403 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:26 pm to
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I say "had been" because following a visit to the White House with Obama to tell him what she knew about that day and insist upon a new investigation, she was killed in a plane crash on the way back home.





way to distort the facts. The plane crash that killed her happened a week later, not "on the way back home," you fraud. What about the dozens of high profile conspiracy theorists..why haven't they been killed off yet?

Oh, I'm still waiting for you to explain the existence and death of Barbara Olson. You've REALLY ducked that one.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 8:30 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:45 pm to
My Silence Cannot Be Bought
By Beverly Eckert

LINK
This piece by Beverly Eckert was originally published on Friday, December 19, 2003, and ran on the Opinion page of USAToday.

quote:

I've chosen to go to court rather than accept a payoff from the 9/11 victims compensation fund. Instead, I want to know what went so wrong with our intelligence and security systems that a band of religious fanatics was able to turn four U.S passenger jets into an enemy force, attack our cities and kill 3,000 civilians with terrifying ease. I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours and why escape and rescue options were so limited.

I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues, including congressional hearings and the 9/11 commission, my lawsuit requires all testimony be given under oath and fully uses powers to compel evidence.

The victims fund was not created in a spirit of compassion. Rather, it was a tacit acknowledgement by Congress that it tampered with our civil justice system in an unprecedented way. Lawmakers capped the liability of the airlines at the behest of lobbyists who descended on Washington while the Sept. 11 fires still smoldered.

And this liability cap protects not just the airlines, but also World Trade Center builders, safety engineers and other defendants.


The caps on liability have consequences for those who want to sue to shed light on the mistakes of 9/11. It means the playing field is tilted steeply in favor of those who need to be held accountable. With the financial consequences other than insurance proceeds removed, there is no incentive for those whose negligence contributed to the death toll to acknowledge their failings or implement reforms. They can afford to deny culpability and play a waiting game.

By suing, I've forfeited the "$1.8 million average award" for a death claim I could have collected under the fund. Nor do I have any illusions about winning money in my suit. What I do know is I owe it to my husband, whose death I believe could have been avoided, to see that all of those responsible are held accountable. If we don't get answers to what went wrong, there will be a next time. And instead of 3,000 dead, it will be 10,000. What will Congress do then?

So I say to Congress, big business and everyone who conspired to divert attention from government and private-sector failures: My husband's life was priceless, and I will not let his death be meaningless. My silence cannot be bought.



wiki
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Beverly Eckert (May 29, 1951 – February 12, 2009) was an activist and advocate for the creation of the 9/11 Commission. She was one of the members of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Commission. Eckert's husband, Sean Rooney, died at age 50 in the attacks of September 11, 2001. She pushed for a commission to investigate 9/11 and to establish a memorial.

Eckert died at age 57 on February 12, 2009, in the crash of Colgan Air Flight 3407 in Clarence Center, New York. She had met with President Barack Obama just a few days before her death in her role as an advocate for those affected by 9/11.
Just another one of those conspiracy kooks the sheople on this board like to talk about.

This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:50 pm to
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If such a thing had actually happened, there would have been demands from the White House, from Congress, and from the media for an investigation. Officials would have been held accountable for their failures. Heads would have rolled.

There were demands for heads to roll but alas, none did.

That said, what you and other conspiracy theorists, both on this and the countless alleged "scandals" in the Obama administration don't get is when it comes to anything the govt does, when given the choice between incompetence and conspiracy, it's almost always incompetence.
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