- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Why is Archie Manning going down as a great quarterback?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:01 am
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:01 am
He has this legacy (worshipped by ole miss people) as one of the greatest quarterbacks and I don't understand why.
Lets look at his college stats:
3 year career= 31 TD, 40 INT and 4753 yards.
Avg per year= 10.3 TD, 13.3 INT and 1583 yards
That sucks!
I can think of 100's of quarterbacks throughout history with better stats.
Lets look at his college stats:
3 year career= 31 TD, 40 INT and 4753 yards.
Avg per year= 10.3 TD, 13.3 INT and 1583 yards
That sucks!
I can think of 100's of quarterbacks throughout history with better stats.
20
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:05 am to Jack Daniel
I have no idea.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:19 am to Jack Daniel
quote:good question - would the comparison be between he and other ole miss qb's or nfl qb's? Still worshipped in MS. for sure. But, he and Olivia ain't gonna leave NOLA for the sacred ground of MS.
Why is Archie Manning going down as a great quarterback?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:28 am to Jack Daniel
It's truly mind blowing. He once had a season with 6 TDs and 16 INTs and followed it by throwing 7 TDs and 20 INTs the next season. I know it was a different game back then and his supporting cast was bad, but his numbers are absolutely terrible.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:31 am to Jack Daniel
If Peyton Manning was never born, nobody talks about the Mannings today. I truly believe that.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:55 am to Jack Daniel
He never really had great teams, plus his children keep his name relevant.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 3:20 am to Jack Daniel
He's not, he isn't.
Southern hype plus son has carried that guy in the media.
Southern hype plus son has carried that guy in the media.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:29 am to Jack Daniel
There aren't enough Ole Miss fans to get him on the pedestal that he resides historically. Teams did not pass much and good receivers were rare. Archie was and is a special ball player. Played on awful teams.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 5:25 am to Jack Daniel
you absolutely cannot compare passing stats from the 1960's to now. It was a completely different game
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:21 am to Jack Daniel
The game has evolved since he played.
Namath had less than stellar stats as well.
Pull the Heisman stats from pre 1980 for QB's. Most would not make all conference now. I think we have to recognize that short passing game has changed risk/reward. Completion % has gone up and interceptions (for the top guys) have gone down. Also, Alabama is known as a run first team now and threw 33 passes Saturday. In 1970, 25 passes was a lot of attempts. 200 yards passing in 1970 was a big day. Now 300 yards is routine.
Archie was a leader and was exciting to watch in his time.
Namath had less than stellar stats as well.
Pull the Heisman stats from pre 1980 for QB's. Most would not make all conference now. I think we have to recognize that short passing game has changed risk/reward. Completion % has gone up and interceptions (for the top guys) have gone down. Also, Alabama is known as a run first team now and threw 33 passes Saturday. In 1970, 25 passes was a lot of attempts. 200 yards passing in 1970 was a big day. Now 300 yards is routine.
Archie was a leader and was exciting to watch in his time.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:53 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
I can think of 100's of quarterbacks throughout history with better stats.
Okay, then name them.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:13 am to Jack Daniel
Because Roger staubach once said that if he had played with Dallas that manning would have been a winner, or something to that effect.
But, as a Saints fan since 77, I still think that he is grossly overrated.
But, as a Saints fan since 77, I still think that he is grossly overrated.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:15 am to Jack Daniel
quote:Ok, then name them.
I can think of 100's of quarterbacks throughout history with better stats.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:21 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
He has this legacy (worshipped by ole miss people) as one of the greatest quarterbacks and I don't understand why.
Ask someone who isn't a total Ole Miss/Saints slappy and report back.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:42 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
Why is Archie Manning going down as a great quarterback?
Why is Joe Montana considered a great quarterback?
He isn't in the top 10 for career passing yards or passing touchdowns.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:25 am to Jack Daniel
Im sorry, I know the game was way different back then. But if you are on average throwing more picks then touchdowns, then you are not some amazing quarterback that people are making him out to be. Maybe for his time, he was one of the best. But that just says everybody sucked back then
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:14 am to Jack Daniel
Archie is a folk hero. His stats aren't gaudy, but he went out there every week and gave it everything he had. That he sired two NFL QBs (one arguably the greatest of all time, the other a two time Super Bowl MVP) definitely boosts his legend.
With a lot of players, it's not all about stats. Archie Manning is one of those players.
With a lot of players, it's not all about stats. Archie Manning is one of those players.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:40 am to Jack Daniel
If you don't understand why Archie is celebrated at Ole Miss, it's because you've never actually watched footage from his games. He won some big games and was an innovator at the QB position. He firmly resides in SEC folklore as an icon of his era. Watch the Book of Manning, the ESPN 30 for 30 film, and it will give you a flavor for how good Archie was and why he is still so well-loved.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:37 am to Jack Daniel
NFL Films did a great piece on Manning back in the late 90s. It was called "The Best of the Worst"
Posted on 9/3/14 at 12:49 pm to Jack Daniel
Archie Manning was a phenominal SEC QB. Pro stats are skewed since the Saints were beyond bad. Manning was the original Tebow in college.
Manning's games vs LSU and Alabama in 1968, basically the entire 1969 season and the Ala and Georgia games in 1970 were rock solid.
No way on Earth if you are sober could you think of dozens of better QB's in college, let alone hundreds.
Manning's games vs LSU and Alabama in 1968, basically the entire 1969 season and the Ala and Georgia games in 1970 were rock solid.
No way on Earth if you are sober could you think of dozens of better QB's in college, let alone hundreds.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News