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re: DNC Responds to Paul's WSJ Article
Posted on 8/28/14 at 3:02 pm to deltaland
Posted on 8/28/14 at 3:02 pm to deltaland
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Idiots. They think they must attack him because he has an R by his name and they don't realize how dumb and hypocritical they sound now. They'll isolate a lot of their base with that hawkish tone.
Well said. If a Democrat was going to vote for a hawk, why not just vote for McCain, because you know he's the real thing.
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:00 pm to RollTide4Ever
Those fat hacks have no idea how hypocrital they sound right now. They have an epic tin ear going on right now.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:12 pm to RollTide4Ever
quote:Perfect. If that is the battlefield, Paul wins.
“Simply put, if Rand Paul had a foreign policy slogan, it would be – The Rand Paul Doctrine: Blame America. Retreat from the World.”
It's Alinsky 101 -- Assign your faults to others.
I really don't see Rand making it to the general election unfortunately, but if he did, he'd eat that yarn up.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It was never a plank in the party platform,
Tsk, tsk.
Facts. You'll confuse him.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:21 pm to RollTide4Ever
quote:Obama 2.0
criticized American policy to the president of another country on foreign soil. This week he’s blaming the Obama Administration for another nation’s civil war. That type of “blame America” rhetoric may win Paul accolades at a conference of isolationists but it does nothing to improve our standing in the world. In fact, Paul’s proposals would make America less safe and less secure.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:23 pm to dante
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Obama 2.0
So much truth.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:27 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Rand Paul Doctrine: Blame America
Wait, is Rand Paul running as a Democrat?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:30 pm to Hawkeye95
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Hell he stole obamacare from the right. BOOM
Its a cute saying and all and repeating something over and over again doesn't make it more factual.
Mitt and Massachusetts are not "right".
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:41 pm to RollTide4Ever
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That type of “blame America” rhetoric may win Paul accolades at a conference of isolationists but it does nothing to improve our standing in the world. In fact, Paul’s proposals would make America less safe and less secure.
holy crap he's doing it, turning dems into hawkish republicans.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:06 pm to Hawkeye95
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Hell he stole obamacare from the right. BOOM. Shitty idea.
No he didn't. Republicans have never supported nationalized healthcare.
Just because one "conservative" think tank proposed it as an idea doesn't mean those on the right or the Republican party supported it.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:09 pm to dante
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Obama 2.0
A main different in Paul and Obama is Paul has better leadership capabilities and I fully trust him to be more successful with diplomacy....more like Reagan.
You can be non interventionist and still have a strong foreign policy. Obama just makes all of the wrong decisions..his foreign policy is atrocious.
But we don't have to arm everyone and bomb everyone to be strong in foreign affairs.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:23 pm to deltaland
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deltaland
I think the point dante is making is that these are the same arguments that were made against Obama in 2008 by the RNC. That he would blame America first (which was - in my opinion - a consistent theme of his candidacy). Seems awful self serving now that the DNC is using the same argument against Rand. He is turning their Left flank and they know it.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:34 pm to deltaland
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A main different in Paul and Obama is Paul has better leadership capabilities and I fully trust him to be more successful with diplomacy....more like Reagan.
What's the basis for your opinion? Rand has no executive experience?
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You can be non interventionist and still have a strong foreign policy. Obama just makes all of the wrong decisions..his foreign policy is atrocious.
ALL of the wrong decisions? Are you saying that Obama should have stayed in Iraq and attacked Syria and Iran?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Does this go the same for people who voted for Bush in 2004 but are going hard for Rand Paul right now?
I have said it once and I will say it again. Anyone who voted for Lurch in 2004, but does not vote for Rand, is a huge hypocrite.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:47 pm to deltaland
On top of the fact that the think tank was in favor of requiring catastrophic plans. You know...the ones obamacare outlawed.
Also....the think tank changed their view on even that pretty quickly. You could say they evolved....Long before obamacare came along.
Also....the think tank changed their view on even that pretty quickly. You could say they evolved....Long before obamacare came along.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I have said it once and I will say it again. Anyone who voted for Lurch in 2004, but does not vote for Rand, is a huge hypocrite.
I'll go a step further. Assuming Hillary and Rand get the nominations, anyone who voted for Kerry and Obama because of foreign policy is logically incoherent if they vote for Hillary. Conversely, anyone who voted for W and McCain because of foreign policy is logically incoherent if they vote for Rand.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 8:59 pm to RollTide4Ever
do they not see the irony of their response? 
but what about our global standing?!?!
but what about our global standing?!?!
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:00 pm to trackfan
well said track 
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:03 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:thanks. That was the point.
I think the point dante is making is that these are the same arguments that were made against Obama in 2008 by the RNC. That he would blame America first (which was - in my opinion - a consistent theme of his candidacy). Seems awful self serving now that the DNC is using the same argument against Rand. He is turning their Left flank and they know it.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The amazing thing is that this could have been a republican response to a democrat in 2004.
You mean politicans swap arguments with each other depending on who is in power????????
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