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re: Kobe: "I would rather go 0-30 than 0-9"

Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Your answer was as vague as it could possibly be. It's not an answer.

The point is, when is it appropriate for your star player to shut it down?


Sorry I don't have an exact answer to a question that doesn't have one. It's up for him to decide when he just doesn't have it for the night. Clearly he thinks there is no point where he decides that. That makes him selfish and stupid IMO.

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I tend to agree with him. I want my best player taking shots, whether he's hitting them or not. Obviously, I don't want him taking fade away threes, but if he is getting open looks and taking them, I don't see an issue.


Who says he's getting open? That's an awfully big assumption that was nowhere in the discussion. Maybe he's 0-30 because he takes shitty shots. So you want he to keep doing that because he's a star?

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What would you have him do?


Pass the ball.

Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:56 pm to
Spoken like the true GOAT
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:56 pm to
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Who says he's getting open? That's an awfully big assumption that was nowhere in the discussion. Maybe he's 0-30 because he takes shitty shots. So you want he to keep doing that because he's a star?


What if a player misses his first 9 rebounds?

What if a player makes 9 bad passes?

What if his teammates miss 9 straight shots after assist passes?

What if a player misses a few steals in a row?

Answer: keep playing aggressive and don't quit.

People slam Kobe for going 6-24 in game 7 against Boston.

Guess what, had he quit being aggressive the Lakers would not have won it all that year. People forget he exploded for 11 points in the 4th quarter in that game - leading them from behind to win. He's speaking from experience.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:56 pm to
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Who says he's getting open? That's an awfully big assumption that was nowhere in the discussion. Maybe he's 0-30 because he takes shitty shots. So you want he to keep doing that because he's a star?
Did you read what you quoted? Everything in your response was addressed in the quote.
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Sorry I don't have an exact answer to a question that doesn't have one. It's up for him to decide when he just doesn't have it for the night. Clearly he thinks there is no point where he decides that. That makes him selfish and stupid IMO.
Humor me. You think 30 is enough to call him selfish and stupid. What's the cutoff for not being selfish and stupid?
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Pass the ball.
If your star offensive player isn't willing to shoot the ball, take him out of the game. He isn't contributing anymore.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Did you read what you quoted?


Yes, but even with that assumption, if you can't hit wide open shots, stop shooting.

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Humor me. You think 30 is enough to call him selfish and stupid. What's the cutoff for not being selfish and stupid?


I'd say 20 is nice round number.

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If your star isn't willing to shoot the ball, take him out of the game. He isn't contributing anymore.




going 0-30 definitely is though. Come on.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:00 pm to
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What if a player misses his first 9 rebounds?


How does one miss a rebound?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:00 pm to
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How does one miss a rebound?


are you retarded?
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Yes, but even with that assumption, if you can't hit wide open shots, stop shooting.
We're just not going to see eye to eye on this and it's a waste of time to keep arguing. I want my star to keep shooting in the hopes that he finds his rhythm.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:02 pm to
Didn't think that one through
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:02 pm to
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We're just not going to see eye to eye on this and it's a waste of time to keep arguing. I want my star to keep shooting in the hopes that he finds his rhythm.


Well, enjoy missing the playoffs while Kobe tries to stroke his ego instead of being a team player.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:02 pm to
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are you retarded?


Show me a stat for attempted rebounds. Kthanx.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Well, enjoy missing the playoffs while Kobe tries to stroke his ego instead of being a team player.
Ok?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Ok?


That was more for unknown than you.
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Well, enjoy missing the playoffs while Kobe tries to stroke his ego instead of being a team player.

You really pwnt him.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Well, enjoy missing the playoffs while Kobe tries to stroke his ego instead of being a team player.


If a player "stroking his ego" gets a team 5 rings then, as a coach, I say "stroke away"
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:04 pm to
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That was more for unknown than you.
Yet you quoted me and replied to me...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Yet you quoted me and replied to me...


Holy frick, because you said it. I get how the board works.

ETA: It wasn't an insult to you. And people accuse me of being sensitive.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:05 pm to
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If a player "stroking his ego" gets a team 5 rings then, as a coach, I say "stroke away"


How long ago was that last title?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:05 pm to
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I get how the board works.
Do you?

You quoted me and replied to me but the response was meant for unknown?'

Are you having a stroke?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:06 pm to
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Do you?

You quoted me and replied to me but the response was meant for unknown?'

Are you having a stroke?


You're trying really hard, and it's not working.

Post meant for you in case you were wondering.
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