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re: DC: "No Jokes" Floating Around
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:11 pm to DeathValley85
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:11 pm to DeathValley85
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I think the comedy in Guardians made you appreciate the serious moments even more.
this is how I feel.
GotG was hilarious, funnest i've had in the theater in years
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:13 pm to Freauxzen
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"Green Lantern" is the one film where they really gave a character permission to talk shite in the Tony Stark manner, fast and funny and self-aware, and where audiences seemed to love it when Robert Downey Jr. did it, they did not seem as smitten with Reynolds.
Except that the reason audiences weren't smitten with Reynolds had nothing to do with Reynolds and everything to do with that movie being a steaming pile of shite from the jump. Badly written, badly directed, badly edited, just bad. I actually felt bad for the actors because Reynolds' career has never really recovered, and Mark Strong and Peter Sarsgaard are far too good of actors to be associated with that shite heap.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:19 pm to LoveThatMoney
i REEEEEAALLLY hope they learned their lesson on this movie so they dont repeat it in Shazam. I think the biggest problem was they tried to do everything in the first movie instead of planning it out.
they should have never had parallax in that movie nor had Sinestro turn just yet. that shouldve been hinted at for the next one. it was just all over the place and became a jumbled mess.
they should have never had parallax in that movie nor had Sinestro turn just yet. that shouldve been hinted at for the next one. it was just all over the place and became a jumbled mess.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:26 pm to BlacknGold
I'm waiting for a Teen Titans movie. The animated, "Teen Titans Go" on cartoon network is a fun, clever little show.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:32 pm to Fun Bunch
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Seems about what I expected. They seemed to go very serious with MoS, so that is the way they are going. Very, very serious.
I laughed through most of MoS.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:32 pm to BlacknGold
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i REEEEEAALLLY hope they learned their lesson on this movie so they dont repeat it in Shazam. I think the biggest problem was they tried to do everything in the first movie instead of planning it out.
they should have never had parallax in that movie nor had Sinestro turn just yet. that shouldve been hinted at for the next one. it was just all over the place and became a jumbled mess.
This. Geoff Johns trying to fit what he did over years of comics into an hour and a half.
Parallax is a great villain/threat when it's used as an explanation for Hal's turn as a villain. In no way is it required in an origin movie. Hell, Hal didn't even meet another Green Lantern for the first two years of his existence in the comics.
Should've gone with one simple villian like Sinestro or Star Sapphire. Do the origin, close the movie with the introduction to a few other Green Lanterns to build up to the next movie.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:38 pm to BlacknGold
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i think what they were getting at is itll be more like those type of jokes. and not the outright slap stick kind of moments the avengers had.
That's taking it a little far. Avengers didn't have slapstick humor. Slapstick humor is Leslie Nielsen.
It had the Hulk/Thor punch, which is very much in character.
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itll be more of the subtle, smirky kind of humor
But was any of this in MoS?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:40 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Except that the reason audiences weren't smitten with Reynolds had nothing to do with Reynolds and everything to do with that movie being a steaming pile of shite from the jump. Badly written, badly directed, badly edited, just bad. I actually felt bad for the actors because Reynolds' career has never really recovered, and Mark Strong and Peter Sarsgaard are far too good of actors to be associated with that shite heap.
Tru, but even if you make everything else around it better, I don't think that makes Reynolds' performance THAT much better.
It was a poorly written film (it's actually grown on me a bit though, despite the idea of covering years of comic books in one film).
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:50 pm to Freauxzen
If this is true they may as well pass on making a Flash movie until the amatuers currently running the DC projects are removed...
...it would be a waste of the character.
...it would be a waste of the character.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:53 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Should've gone with one simple villian like Sinestro or Star Sapphire. Do the origin, close the movie with the introduction to a few other Green Lanterns to build up to the next movie.
couldnt agree more. i was thinking have the Manhunters be the first threat so you can introduce a bit of the Corps and have Sinestro build a relationship at the end. Then towards the end of the movie hint at the yellow power and Sinestro disagreeing with the guardians.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:54 pm to Freauxzen
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It had the Hulk/Thor punch, which is very much in character.
slapstick was the wrong word for it. but did you not see the point i was still trying to make? its way more jovial and "punchy" (no pun intended) than the dark knight stuff.
the avengers is more of an action/comedy than a drama, which i think DC is aiming for
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:57 pm to BlacknGold
That's pretty close to slapstick. The punch, followed by Hulk slamming Loki around like Daffy Duck in a wrestling match, complete with Loki in an indentation on the floor giving a comedic sound effect... Cartoonish if not slapstick.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:58 pm to BlacknGold
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the avengers is more of an action/comedy than a drama, which i think DC is aiming for
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nolan was the best AND worst thing that could have happened to DC.
Marvel adapted, got better, and created its own "genre" in a sense because Nolan's talent pushed them.
DC, while raking in billions, got stuck on stupid.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:00 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Nolan's Batman movies had jokes. Even MOS had some sight gags and smirkish humor. The guy hoisted a massive truck onto a power pole just to teach a bully a lesson. The jokes are there, they're just not the zingers and one-liners and pratfalls that you'll see in the Marvel movies.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:05 pm to theunknownknight
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DC, while raking in billions, got stuck on stupid.
they got stuck on the $$ signs. but to be fair, they have only had 1 movie set in this new universe. I'll wait and see how SvB does before completely dismissing them.
whats kind of ironic is, DC comics tone resembles more of Marvels movies. While Marvels comics resemble more of DCs movie tone.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:07 pm to theunknownknight
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nolan was the best AND worst thing that could have happened to DC.
Marvel adapted, got better, and created its own "genre" in a sense because Nolan's talent pushed them.
DC, while raking in billions, got stuck on stupid.
Marvel's success began with Favreau, which set the tone for their series.
DC's recent success began with Nolan. They'll have to endure something much worse than an underperforming Man of Steel to steer away from what Nolan started.
If Marvel has started with Joe Johnston or Branaugh (who tweeked their movies a bit to jive with Favreau), we might have a different set of Marvel movies going. Less humor possibly. With Johnston, more old school heroics as we saw in Cap 1 and Rocketeer.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:08 pm to BlacknGold
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slapstick was the wrong word for it. but did you not see the point i was still trying to make? its way more jovial and "punchy" (no pun intended) than the dark knight stuff.
Oh of course. Just not slap stick.
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the avengers is more of an action/comedy than a drama, which i think DC is aiming for
I wouldn't go that far. The Avengers is very much an "Action Movie," it has Silver Age comic sensibilities and 1980s fun-action overtones. Smart arse heroes. Cool one liners. Some ridiculous stunts.
Shanghai Noon or 21 Jump Street are action comedies. The Avengers isn't close to them, it isn't THAT funny.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:10 pm to BlacknGold
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whats kind of ironic is, DC comics tone resembles more of Marvels movies. While Marvels comics resemble more of DCs movie tone.
It just depends on the era.
MCU movies resemble Silver Age Marvel comics with modern story arcs (Brubaker's Cap for certain).
Whereas, in the 1990s, Marvel went all emo-dark while DC kind of stayed in the Silver Age.
Now, they are kind of even all around, thankfully. For every Deadpool, Spider-Man or Shazam there's a Batman or Cyclops.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:12 pm to theunknownknight
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nolan was the best AND worst thing that could have happened to DC.
That's my line!
But yeah completely agree.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 2:15 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Sorry Freaux but Avengers clearly had some slapstick comedy. Hulk slamming Loki into the ground is no different than Moe poking Larry in the eyes.
I don't see a problem with using the term slapstick.
I do see a problem if DC makes all of their movies bleak.
In real life, soldiers joke even amidst death and destruction. It is the way we are able to cope.
Superman lends itself to less humor because he is alone.
Once in a group, there would always be some monkeying around going on between the super heroes so no need for DC to remove real life humor.
I don't see a problem with using the term slapstick.
I do see a problem if DC makes all of their movies bleak.
In real life, soldiers joke even amidst death and destruction. It is the way we are able to cope.
Superman lends itself to less humor because he is alone.
Once in a group, there would always be some monkeying around going on between the super heroes so no need for DC to remove real life humor.
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