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Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:29 pm to Coppertone
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What's the point?
Do you think that only NFL quarterbacks can throw a football 60 yards? Of the 300+ million people in this country, only NFL quarterbacks can get that distance? I doubt it.
My point is it takes more than distance to make it as a pro QB. Like I said, low trajectory + high velocity is harder than just letting it air out. Also, knowledge of the game and good foot work are important.
I know a guy who can launch a football on his knees like a boss. He played college football at a small university. He's not in the NFL. Of course, he comes from a football bloodline, so he may not be the best example. He's sort of a freak.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I just know I've never tried to throw an NFL football as far as I can. I own several college balls and play football regularly with them.
Never said they were really different.
Also, I just googled and it appears college balls weigh a little less and are a tiny bit smaller, but not by much in either category.
The NFL Rule :
The Ball must be a “Wilson,” hand selected, bearing the signature of the Commissioner
of the league,...
The ball shall be made up of an inflated (12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds) rubber bladder enclosed
in a pebble grained, leather case (natural tan color) without corrugations of any kind.
It shall have the form of a prolate spheroid and the size and weight shall be: long axis,
11 to 11 1/4 inches; long circumference, 28 to 28 1/2 inches; short circumference, 21
to 21 1/4 inches; weight, 14 to 15 ounces.
The NCAA Rule:
The ball shall meet the following specifications:
a. New or nearly new. (A nearly new ball is a ball that has not been altered and retains the properties and qualities of a new ball.)
b. Cover consisting of four panels of pebble-grained leather without corrugations other than seams.
c. One set of eight equally spaced lacings.
d. Natural tan color.
e. Two 1-inch white stripes that are three to three and one-quarter inches from the end of the ball and located only on the two panels adjacent to the laces.
f. Conforms to maximum and minimum dimensions and shape indicated in the accompanying diagram.
g. Inflated to the pressure of 12-1/2 to 13-1/2 pounds per square inch(psi).
h. Weight of 14 to 15 ounces. The short circumference is 20 3/4" to 21 1/4"
The long circumference is 27 3/4" to 28 1/2". The long axis is 10 7/8 to 11 7/16.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:32 pm to Coppertone
You just pulled that off a random website called AllExperts.com I'm sure.
Solid stuff. But it still doesn't make a point.
Solid stuff. But it still doesn't make a point.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:33 pm to Tiger Ryno
read the thread title, thought about inserting whitty line from Napoleon Dynamite. See the OP, realize that was thought of already.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:34 pm to SabiDojo
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Do you think that only NFL quarterbacks can throw a football 60 yards? Of the 300+ million people in this country, only NFL quarterbacks can get that distance? I doubt it.
My point is it takes more than distance to make it as a pro QB. Like I said, low trajectory + high velocity is harder than just letting it air out. Also, knowledge of the game and good foot work are important.
I know a guy who can launch a football on his knees like a boss. He played college football at a small university. He's not in the NFL. Of course, he comes from a football bloodline, so he may not be the best example. He's sort of a freak.
Sure, I understand that. I'm not saying the QB's I listed were the top arms of the human race. I posted that merely as a point of comparison to someone who throws a football for a living to the average Joe. We all "know a guy"; There are exceptions to every rule. But, I also don't think it's out of line to "tisk tisk" at an average Joe who thinks they can they can throw a football only a tad shorter than Aaron Rodgers.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:35 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You just pulled that off a random website called AllExperts.com I'm sure.
Solid stuff. But it still doesn't make a point.
It's text from a google search. I cross referenced it against the NCAA and NFL rule books and it's correct.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:35 pm to SabiDojo
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I know a guy who can launch a football on his knees like a boss. He played college football at a small university.
There's your answer. If good enough to play at even a small university, he's way above the average internet poster. I ran track in college for a Sunbelt school (guess which one), but even I've gotten called out in threads about who can run what, because, well...just look at the ACT and 40 yd dash threads.
Same with possibly a couple of the posters in this thread. One mentioned he grew up playing QB, and maybe he threw javelin in the Spring as well, so he could be telling the truth. But the number of posters claiming to be able to throw 50 yds+? Forgive others for being skeptical.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:35 pm to Napoleon
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read the thread title, thought about inserting whitty line from Napoleon Dynamite. See the OP, realize that was thought of already.
Uncle Rico is such a badass.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:38 pm to Coppertone
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it's correct.
Again, solid stuff. Still doesn't prove a point.
I never said I could throw one further than the other or that they were different sizes that affected my throwing distance in any way. You are misguided in your argument with a ghost.
ETA:
I clearly just said I have thrown an NCAA football and was clarifying that in a discussion with someone else.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:39 pm to Coppertone
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But, I also don't think it's out of line to "tisk tisk" at an average Joe who thinks they can they can throw a football only a tad shorter than Aaron Rodgers.
If Aaron Rodgers can throw a ball 70+ yards, I wouldn't call 55-60 yards "a tad shorter". That's a considerable difference in distance.
And, I think most of the claims have been 40+ yards. That's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
And, I think you'd be surprised how many people are stronger than a random NFL quarterback. It doesn't make you a better quarterback, though.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:40 pm to dallaslsufan
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Could throw 75 yrds with no wind
DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:43 pm to SabiDojo
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And, I think you'd be surprised how many people are stronger than a random NFL quarterback. It doesn't make you a better quarterback, though.
There are hundreds, if not thousands of ex-HS QBs that can throw the ball further than several NFL QBs.
Its not freakish arm strength that makes them a good QB. Drew Brees does not have a cannon and I want to make babies with him because he's such a good QB.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
I never said I could throw one further than the other or that they were different sizes that affected my throwing distance in any way. You are misguided in your argument with a ghost.
ETA:
I clearly just said I have thrown an NCAA football and was clarifying that in a discussion with someone else.
My bad....I thought I read somewhere that someone was differentiating distances they could throw an NCAA vs NFL ball.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:47 pm to TheCaterpillar
This isn't baseball where if a pitcher throws 100 mph they make the big leagues. Its a lot more complicated of a position than that and arm strength doesn't have to be that great to be successful and vice versa, great arm strength alone is not enough to make even a college team most of the time.
Jerrard Randall had a better arm than Mettenberger apparently and he couldn't beat out Brad Kragthorpe.
Jerrard Randall had a better arm than Mettenberger apparently and he couldn't beat out Brad Kragthorpe.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:47 pm to Coppertone
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My bad....I thought I read somewhere that someone was differentiating distances they could throw an NCAA vs NFL ball.
I threw a "college size" ball and it was smaller because I had no trouble gripping it. It may be because the manufacturers make them in different sizes, though. All I know is I can't grip an NFL ball well.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
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There are hundreds, if not thousands of ex-HS QBs that can throw the ball further than several NFL QBs.
Its not freakish arm strength that makes them a good QB. Drew Brees does not have a cannon and I want to make babies with him because he's such a good QB.
Maybe, but I also don't think it's out of the realm of reason for someone to question if these super arms are posting on the OT midday on a Wednesday.
Just to be clear, there are posters on the OT that, if they stood side by side with Drew on the goal line, would throw an NFL ball farther?
I don't think it's out of line for someone to say "no way, what are the odds?"
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:51 pm to Coppertone
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Just to be clear, there are posters on the OT that, if they stood side by side with Drew on the goal line, would throw an NFL ball farther?
Ehhh I bet he would toss it 60 on the reg with a perfect spiral. I think I only saw one guy in here claim he could beat that.
ETA
and there are 7,000 users online right now, 7 or 8 have said they can throw it over 50 yards.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:01 pm to Topwater Trout
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o you will continue believing those 32 qbs won strongest arm competitions and that is why they are NFL qbs
Jamarcus Russel could probably throw it further than all of them...guess he will be in Canton one day
No, I'll continue believing that we didn't identify almost a dozen people within less than an hour on a single website who could throw within 5 yards of the max distance of the six farthest-throwing NFL QB's.
I have no doubt that a lot of people here believe that they can, since there are a lot of simpletons on the site.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 1:09 pm to Coppertone
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Just to be clear, there are posters on the OT that, if they stood side by side with Drew on the goal line, would throw an NFL ball farther?
Standing side by side with no crow-hop? He can prlly throw it about 55-60 yards. I couldnt do that with no crow-hop. Given 5 yards to step into it and launch it as far as we both could, I would think it wouldnt be difficult to stay within about 10 yards of him. Im bigger than him though.
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