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USF: The Program that Almost Was

Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:16 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:16 pm
Yeah it nearly sounds like a 30 for 30 topic but I figured this could be an interesting discussion. Has anyone ever seen a program climb out of obscurity, appear to be on the "cusp", and then completely collapse?

Jim Leavitt was their first ever coach in 1997. In his final 4 seasons he had 34 wins for the Bulls scoring wins against WVU, @UNC, NC St., @AU, and @FSU. If I recall correctly they were steady in the polls for a while and climbed up pretty high at times.

So Leavitt gets canned. I'm not sure how the USF fans felt about the Skip Holtz hire but I didn't think it was a bad hire considering Skip's resume. ECU had won 3 games in it's previous 2 seasons before Skip. By Skip's 3rd and 4th seasons (his last 2) ECU won 18 games and 2 CUSA titles. So it seemed to make sense to me that he could work with an "up and coming program"

In his first season Skip went 8-5, the same record of Leavitt's last season. However in Skip's last 2 seasons the Bulls went 5-7 and then sank down to 3-9 losing to teams like Ball St. and Temple. Skip was let go and their new coach, Willie Taggart, went 2-10 in his first season last year.

So what the hell happened? Did their recruiting really fall of that much because of Leavitt's departure?

As deep as the state of FL is has USF just been getting boxed out too much? UF is always talented, FSU has reemerged, UCF has won 10+ games in 3/4 seasons, nearby 'Bama and AU are rotating title game appearances, SC and Clemson have been top 10 programs the last 3 years and both love to get into that FL talent pool, etc.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164342 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:19 pm to
USF was #2 at one point in 2007.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60222 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:20 pm to
I remember when they rose to number two in that crazy 07 season thinking they had the potential to catch lightning in a bottle like Miami and make the jump to a major program. They just kinda fell off the map relevance wise after they lost that year
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36480 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:26 pm to
dont forget about their big time win over kansas in 2008. i think im actually being serious
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71794 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Has anyone ever seen a program climb out of obscurity, appear to be on the "cusp", and then completely collapse?

Tulane. Arkansas. Kansas. Illinois twice in the last 15 years.
quote:

So what the hell happened?

They had a good year, that really didn't end up being that good.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:17 pm to
South Florida was ranked as high as #2 in the polls in the wacky 2007 football season.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:12 pm to
Shouldn't have fired Leavitt.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132540 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

USF just been getting boxed out too much

Need to find the right coach. Also, USF gets some decent transfers.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32991 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:30 pm to
FSU wasn't a big name at the time and they weren't getting big recruits and kids weren't committing to Coker and Miami. Florida was getting all the top recruits from the nation. That Florida left kids like Jason Pierre-Paul, George Selvie and Mike Jenkins with options like USF.

And Leavitt was a really good coach. I think he coached under Snyder who is a wizard!
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:58 pm to
Look at what happened to their conference. They went from being in a Big 6 conference playing WVU, Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers, Louisville etc to a joke of a conference. UCF also cut into their talent.
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
3152 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:44 pm to
UCF took over Florida's second tier players. It is a legit program on the rise.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:07 am to
Hell, Tennessee has been bad for a longer period of time.
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