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re: CNN - Hillary Clinton pummels Obama foreign policy
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:56 am to trackfan
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:56 am to trackfan
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Unlike the UK's Robin Cooke who resigned when he was unable to talk some sense into Tony Blair, Powell and Clinton were unwilling to walk away from the trappings of power so they went along for the ride.
Not sure what Powell's motivations were for staying the course. I feel confident saying that Hillary has shown that power is more important to her than her principles in the past.
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:58 am to AlaTiger
Alatiger nailed it. She will never be President because, among other reasons, she was the architect of Odummy's foreign policy.
This is fun, though. It isn't often that you see an architect attempt to blow up his own creation.
This is fun, though. It isn't often that you see an architect attempt to blow up his own creation.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:04 am to trackfan
quote:Wait, so regardless of Republican or Democrat, the agenda remains the same?
So she's admitting she's a neocon. Cool.
Of course she's a neocon. That's why she voted for W's Iraq War in 2002.
Golly gee whillickers, it's almost as if both sides are taking orders from the same boss.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:08 am to TX Tiger
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TX Tiger
smh
Who is this boss they are taking orders from?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:19 am to the808bass
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So the former Secretary of State is denouncing the foreign policy of the President she worked for. Awesome.
This is really weird isn't it?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:32 am to Broke
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This is really weird isn't it?
Honestly? Kind of a bizarre mixture of sock puppet fight and cowardice.
She is the architect and implementer of forgeign policy within the broad guidance that the President provides to her. If it failed (quite frankly) then she has no one to look at other than herself.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:56 am to Wolfhound45
No way she can successfully run from something she was a part of...
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:02 pm to DByrd2
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No way she can successfully run from something she was a part of...
"Let me say it again. I did have foreign policy with that man, Mr. obama."
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:07 pm to Wolfhound45
Another analogy;
When I was the chaffeur and taking orders I could not drive at all.
But if you let me own the car, then it will all be good.
When I was the chaffeur and taking orders I could not drive at all.
But if you let me own the car, then it will all be good.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:14 pm to Napoleon
She can't distance herself when she didn't speak out or resign in protest of said idiotic policies.
All she is going to do is alienate the blacks and fanatical fringe who will dump her for another Obama type candidate.
All she is going to do is alienate the blacks and fanatical fringe who will dump her for another Obama type candidate.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:17 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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She can't distance herself when she didn't speak out or resign in protest of said idiotic policies. All she is going to do is alienate the blacks and fanatical fringe who will dump her for another Obama type candidate.
Yes.
Yes she can.
She can say and do whatever she wants. She is a Progressive that will be "taken care of" by her media.
Did anyone at CNN call her out?
Blacks will vote for her if she is the Dem nominee no matter what.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:21 pm to Wolfhound45
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CNN - Hillary Clinton pummels Obama foreign policy
I see she's learned from Obama. Just act like you're not (or weren't) even in charge.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:40 pm to Wolfhound45
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Hillary Clinton pummels Obama foreign policy
Despite having the same foreign policy herself. K.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:00 pm to Hawkeye95
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So she's admitting she's a neocon. Cool.
she has always been a neo-con and very hawkish.
smart political move by HRC. FP usually has a small role in presidential elections, it can affect the primaries though. Obama has had mis-step after mis-step in the last few years, HRC trying to frame the issue early is smart politics.
The only thing is she opens herself up to the left, and potentially vulnerable to her base if Rand Paul is GOP nominee. americans are SICK of war, on the left and right.
How on Earth would tacking right help her in the primaries- it'd be like a Republican moving left this year so he could win the Republican primaries.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:00 pm to KCT
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Alatiger nailed it. She will never be President because, among other reasons, she was the architect of Odummy's foreign policy.
This is fun, though. It isn't often that you see an architect attempt to blow up his own creation.
Colin Powell.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:08 pm to Wolfhound45
Nothing new here, she detailed the same in her book, depicting the disagreements. Also said the same thing in Charlie Rose interview. Hillary knows the Dem Left won't support her in primaries but they will in the general election.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:09 pm to socraticsilence
And Colin Powell will never be president either. Neither will Condoleeza Rice. There are too many egregious errors to pin on them that they either supported or did not oppose strongly enough when they had the chance.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:10 pm to wfeliciana
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Hillary knows the Dem Left won't support her in primaries but they will in the general election.
This gentleman gets it.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:10 pm to wfeliciana
Double to the Post
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:13 pm to AlaTiger
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She will never be president.
Obama's Foreign Policy is Hillary Clinton's foreign policy since she was Secretary of State and executed his policy that led to this mess.
If she disagreed with him, she should have resigned in protest. She didn't. She took advantage of it and is now stabbing him in the back.
If she disagreed with him, she should have spoken up and convinced him to change it. She couldn't. If she could not influence her boss and was not a part of SHAPING the foreign policy that she was employed to execute, then why would we think that she can shape anything else or work with others?
I would have respected Hillary if she would have opposed Obama and resigned WHILE she was Secretary of State. Doing this now that everything is clearly falling apart makes her look pathetic.
Agree and hope you are correct that she will never be President.
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