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An American Victory in Iraq
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:25 am
I really don't know what it would look like. For those who think we should have stayed until it was won, I'm open to hearing how this would have been accomplished. In my mind, the only path to peace is for Iraq to be partitioned into 3 states.
I would love to hear what others have to say about this. What would have to have happened for the US to say that its venture into Iraq was a success?
I would love to hear what others have to say about this. What would have to have happened for the US to say that its venture into Iraq was a success?
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:32 am to Big12fan
Success is never having to go back. Kurdistan is the interesting area. Until recently I thought no way turkey would allow it to exist. Now it looks like turkey wants erbil as a trading partner. Will Iran allow Kurdistan to keep Kirkuk?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:35 am to Big12fan
you can't win a war against a "group". if you're not declaring war against a country, then you're pretty much gonna fight til eternity. groups are all over the world
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:35 am to Big12fan
It would take 2 generations but you take the children and convert them to Christianity.
A large well armed Christian nation in that spot would make a nice anvil for Israel to hammer Muslims upon.
U.S. won't do that though. Too expensive and not secular, plus we only think short term.
A large well armed Christian nation in that spot would make a nice anvil for Israel to hammer Muslims upon.
U.S. won't do that though. Too expensive and not secular, plus we only think short term.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:47 am to Big12fan
Good thread.
I'm not sure an american "victory" is possible at this point- at least based off what we know now.(don't really know what the true purpose was originally).
I think best we can do is minimize what we lose.
I'm not sure an american "victory" is possible at this point- at least based off what we know now.(don't really know what the true purpose was originally).
I think best we can do is minimize what we lose.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:44 am to Big12fan
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What would have to have happened for the US to say that its venture into Iraq was a success?
Everything TX Tiger posts, but real
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:14 pm to Big12fan
Find a way for long-term stabilization.
If Bush's model of governance was becoming apparently unworkable, then, work out something else, such as the three-state solution you mention.
IMHO, in order to leave a stable region, the USA should have tried the three state solution, if other options failed.
But regardless, it's clearly evident now that Obama's withdrawal was precipitous and unwise, given the fact that the USA is fighting there today and for the foreseeable future.
If Bush's model of governance was becoming apparently unworkable, then, work out something else, such as the three-state solution you mention.
IMHO, in order to leave a stable region, the USA should have tried the three state solution, if other options failed.
But regardless, it's clearly evident now that Obama's withdrawal was precipitous and unwise, given the fact that the USA is fighting there today and for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 2:45 pm to Big12fan
Should've turned it and Afghanistan into a parking lot.
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