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If Archie ever had an offensive line to speak of,
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:59 pm
Would he be in Canton today?
hell yeah
hell yeah
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:06 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Imagine if he was on the Steelers or the Cowboys in the 1970's.
They might have won even more Super Bowl trophies.
They might have won even more Super Bowl trophies.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:11 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
I bet he's still faster than Peyton or Eli
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:33 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
If Archie ever had an offensive line to speak of
...he would of had less rushing yards.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:36 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
archie sucked
why can't people get over this? Great qbs are great qbs no matter where they go.
I get he played in a defensive era, and a lot of qbs with equally porous numbers from that era are celebrated, but he sucked
accept it.
why can't people get over this? Great qbs are great qbs no matter where they go.
I get he played in a defensive era, and a lot of qbs with equally porous numbers from that era are celebrated, but he sucked
accept it.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:37 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
He might have thrown more touchdowns than interceptions.
125 TDs to 173 Ints
125 TDs to 173 Ints
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:51 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Archie was mediocre regardless of his oline.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:04 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
No. The fallacy of Archies greatness comes from the Saints lack thereof.
He is by far one of the most over-hyped players to ever play at the pro level.
He is by far one of the most over-hyped players to ever play at the pro level.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:18 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
I saw him play at the end of his career when I was a really little kid. My father and grandfather told me that he would have been great if he had had a decent team and that the 78 and 79 offenses were incredible. I always believed them.
However . . .
As time goes by, I tend to agree with the idea that he was overhyped by a Saints fanbase who had nothing else to cling to. I think he was pretty good. He played in the 1978 or 79 Pro Bowl and everyone said he was incredible. But, I think that the truth is that he was radically inconsistent with flashes of brilliance and a lot of athleticism. Overall, he probably would not have been great on any team.
But, that brings up another question: How many great QBs were there in the 1970's? You have Bradshaw, Stabler, Plunkett, Staubach, Ken Anderson, Dan Fouts, and ??? We don't really see great QB play being to emerge until the 80s and we can thank Bill Walsh for that. Dan Marino as well. Perhaps the USFL. QB stats in the 1970s were not that great overall.
However . . .
As time goes by, I tend to agree with the idea that he was overhyped by a Saints fanbase who had nothing else to cling to. I think he was pretty good. He played in the 1978 or 79 Pro Bowl and everyone said he was incredible. But, I think that the truth is that he was radically inconsistent with flashes of brilliance and a lot of athleticism. Overall, he probably would not have been great on any team.
But, that brings up another question: How many great QBs were there in the 1970's? You have Bradshaw, Stabler, Plunkett, Staubach, Ken Anderson, Dan Fouts, and ??? We don't really see great QB play being to emerge until the 80s and we can thank Bill Walsh for that. Dan Marino as well. Perhaps the USFL. QB stats in the 1970s were not that great overall.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:48 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Is Archie a bigger star than Graham? That's the most important question.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:48 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
He acuay played with a very good offense at one time. The team just forgot field a defense during those years.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:03 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
People are WAY too emotional about this issue.
Archie Manning was an excellent NFL QB. He would have been successful on any and all NFL teams.
Arguments that he was less than excellent have some basis in fact, but, are probably outweighed by contrary evidence.
Arguments that he could have been as great as any other QB from his era is speculation, which means, perhaps it is so.
Archie Manning was an excellent NFL QB. He would have been successful on any and all NFL teams.
Arguments that he was less than excellent have some basis in fact, but, are probably outweighed by contrary evidence.
Arguments that he could have been as great as any other QB from his era is speculation, which means, perhaps it is so.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:26 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
No
The Saints were decent in 78 and 79 and he still had more ints than TDs in those years.
BTW, Saints should not have fired Hank Stram.
The Saints were decent in 78 and 79 and he still had more ints than TDs in those years.
BTW, Saints should not have fired Hank Stram.
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