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If Archie ever had an offensive line to speak of,

Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:59 pm
Would he be in Canton today?

hell yeah
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17154 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:06 pm to
Imagine if he was on the Steelers or the Cowboys in the 1970's.

They might have won even more Super Bowl trophies.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:08 pm to
Yes.
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12092 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:11 pm to
I bet he's still faster than Peyton or Eli
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64478 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

If Archie ever had an offensive line to speak of


...he would of had less rushing yards.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:36 pm to
archie sucked

why can't people get over this? Great qbs are great qbs no matter where they go.

I get he played in a defensive era, and a lot of qbs with equally porous numbers from that era are celebrated, but he sucked

accept it.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:37 pm to
He might have thrown more touchdowns than interceptions.

125 TDs to 173 Ints
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:51 pm to
Archie was mediocre regardless of his oline.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:04 pm to
No. The fallacy of Archies greatness comes from the Saints lack thereof.

He is by far one of the most over-hyped players to ever play at the pro level.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21125 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:18 pm to
I saw him play at the end of his career when I was a really little kid. My father and grandfather told me that he would have been great if he had had a decent team and that the 78 and 79 offenses were incredible. I always believed them.

However . . .

As time goes by, I tend to agree with the idea that he was overhyped by a Saints fanbase who had nothing else to cling to. I think he was pretty good. He played in the 1978 or 79 Pro Bowl and everyone said he was incredible. But, I think that the truth is that he was radically inconsistent with flashes of brilliance and a lot of athleticism. Overall, he probably would not have been great on any team.

But, that brings up another question: How many great QBs were there in the 1970's? You have Bradshaw, Stabler, Plunkett, Staubach, Ken Anderson, Dan Fouts, and ??? We don't really see great QB play being to emerge until the 80s and we can thank Bill Walsh for that. Dan Marino as well. Perhaps the USFL. QB stats in the 1970s were not that great overall.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:48 pm to
Is Archie a bigger star than Graham? That's the most important question.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9271 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:48 pm to
He acuay played with a very good offense at one time. The team just forgot field a defense during those years.
Posted by Fanofages
Denham Springs,La.
Member since Jun 2013
672 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:07 am to
F@@@ Archie
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48490 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:03 am to
People are WAY too emotional about this issue.

Archie Manning was an excellent NFL QB. He would have been successful on any and all NFL teams.

Arguments that he was less than excellent have some basis in fact, but, are probably outweighed by contrary evidence.

Arguments that he could have been as great as any other QB from his era is speculation, which means, perhaps it is so.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6093 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:26 am to
No
The Saints were decent in 78 and 79 and he still had more ints than TDs in those years.

BTW, Saints should not have fired Hank Stram.
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