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re: Israel is ramping up the campaign even more - telling Obama to FO
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:21 am to papasmurf1269
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:21 am to papasmurf1269
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Good. Obama should be told to frick off.
This!!
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:33 am to Jim Ignatowski
As long as we give them all this money for their military and their equipment which gives them a massive advantage then we can say what ever the frick we want to to, if they tell us to frick off well we should stop hooking them up.
They sound like a trust fund baby who gets mad at their parents when they tell them to be smarter with their money.
They sound like a trust fund baby who gets mad at their parents when they tell them to be smarter with their money.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:41 am to StraightCashHomey21
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As long as we give them all this money for their military and their equipment which gives them a massive advantage then we can say what ever the frick we want to to, if they tell us to frick off well we should stop hooking them up.
They sound like a trust fund baby who gets mad at their parents when they tell them to be smarter with their money.
We just need to stop funding conflicts in the ME.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 7:09 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:13 am to FightinTigersDammit
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He lets EVERYONE get away with it. He's like a substitute teacher.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:20 am to VOR
No.
People who criticize Jews for defending themselves are anti-semites.
That's entirely what this criticism consists of.
People who criticize Jews for defending themselves are anti-semites.
That's entirely what this criticism consists of.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:57 am to samson'sseed
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People who criticize Jews for defending themselves are anti-semites.
No you are called an anti-semite when you say anything bad about them like they can do no wrong in this conflict.
I hope they kick the shite out of Hamas but I'm not going to turn a blind eye or have my head in the sand as if their hands are clean in all this.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:22 am to StraightCashHomey21
Articles are out this morning trying to analyze exactly how Kerry dropped the ball in Israel and why.
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The short version is pretty much "he made a hard push for a quick end to the fighting, regardless of the larger issues in play."
He did this based on his instructions from Obama on how the conflict was to be handled.
No one is quite in agreement about how he came to the three main points of his cease-fire, which were to legitimize Hamas, let Qatar transfer money to them, and to not address the rocket attacks or tunnel systems, though US sources are disputing that last point.
A good part of the Israeli outrage is apparently due to Kerry talking out of both sides of his mouth, a recurring accusation.
Various Israeli outlets such as Haaretz claim that Kerry was telling Israel one thing and then the ceasefire draft he gave them 24 hours later was completely the opposite of what he'd been leading them to expect, which is partly why it was unanimously rejected.
I'm not sure whether blame should go to Obama for telling him to end the fighting ASAP or Kerry for how he went about following those instructions, but it appears he's made a huge mess of things.
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The short version is pretty much "he made a hard push for a quick end to the fighting, regardless of the larger issues in play."
He did this based on his instructions from Obama on how the conflict was to be handled.
No one is quite in agreement about how he came to the three main points of his cease-fire, which were to legitimize Hamas, let Qatar transfer money to them, and to not address the rocket attacks or tunnel systems, though US sources are disputing that last point.
A good part of the Israeli outrage is apparently due to Kerry talking out of both sides of his mouth, a recurring accusation.
Various Israeli outlets such as Haaretz claim that Kerry was telling Israel one thing and then the ceasefire draft he gave them 24 hours later was completely the opposite of what he'd been leading them to expect, which is partly why it was unanimously rejected.
I'm not sure whether blame should go to Obama for telling him to end the fighting ASAP or Kerry for how he went about following those instructions, but it appears he's made a huge mess of things.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:30 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I hope they kick the shite out of Hamas but I'm not going to turn a blind eye or have my head in the sand as if their hands are clean in all this.
This is, imo, the correct perspective. I'm glad the U.S. kicked the shite out of the Taliban in Afghanistan but that doesn't mean the military did no wrong.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:28 am to teke184
After that stupid sack-o-shyt Kerry called Israel an apartheid state he should have been sacked. There is zero chance that dumb POS can broker any deal.
I notice all the Israeli hate come from the same liberals who love baby murders, homosexual marriage, and hate God.
Since Israel is God's choosen people, that built in devil gets angry at the mere word Israel.
I notice all the Israeli hate come from the same liberals who love baby murders, homosexual marriage, and hate God.
Since Israel is God's choosen people, that built in devil gets angry at the mere word Israel.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:30 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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I notice all the Israeli hate come from the same liberals who love baby murders, homosexual marriage, and hate God.
hmmm, I agree with all those things. Yet I want Hamas destroyed.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:36 am to CptBengal
AIPAC and the Zionist denizens have succeeded in creating more strife and division in the country, as though we needed more of it these days.
It's appalling to see this Kosher-Halal conflict in the Levant lead up to civil wars and potentially WW3 in the West.
It's appalling to see this Kosher-Halal conflict in the Levant lead up to civil wars and potentially WW3 in the West.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:47 am to NoNameNeeded
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The Obama administration has succeeded in creating more strife and division in the country, as though we needed more of it these days.
FIFY
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:53 am to Revelator
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The Obama administration has succeeded in creating more strife and division in the country, as though we needed more of it these days. FIFY
Except the Levantine conflict has been around long before the current administration.
Before long we will be so vested into the Arab-Israeli conflict that our country will become so vulnerable and depleted that China and/or Russia will have hegemony from the east. This Mideast drama is opening us up for disaster from abroad and from within.
It's simply not worth it, because Israel is not our responsibility. This is an insult to the WW2 veterans who fought to liberate them, because the burden is now ours and it will eventually lead to the downfall of the US as the sole superpower in the world.
If anything, China and Russia will benefit the most from the depletion of the USA in the end.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:57 am to NoNameNeeded
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It's simply not worth it, because Israel is not our responsibility. This is an insult to the WW2 veterans who fought to liberate them, because the burden is now ours and it will eventually lead to the downfall of the US as the sole superpower in the world.
So us supporting Israel will lead to us losing superpower status, not Obama's systematically dismantling of our country? I got it!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:12 pm to CptBengal
I am the odd conservative anti-death penalty guy.
But in general generalities, my statement was fact.
But in general generalities, my statement was fact.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:25 pm to mmcgrath
Gotta love the Israelis. They don't give a frick about what the Russians, Chinese, Americans or Europeans think.
Their philosophy is that "if you frick with us too much, we will kill you" & "Shoot them first - sort it our later".
More power to em!
Their philosophy is that "if you frick with us too much, we will kill you" & "Shoot them first - sort it our later".
More power to em!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:37 pm to Revelator
quote:Yes. Anything would have more effect than the imaginary "systematic dismantling" by Obama that no one can quantify.
So us supporting Israel will lead to us losing superpower status, not Obama's systematically dismantling of our country? I got it!
Oh that's right, ObamaCare is destroying the US, right?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:39 pm to Count Chocula
quote:Cancel the checks and watch them give billions of fricks.
Gotta love the Israelis. They don't give a frick about what the Russians, Chinese, Americans or Europeans think.
quote:I agree, superficial ideals like justice and life are so overrated. We should just start killing folks.
Their philosophy is that "if you frick with us too much, we will kill you" & "Shoot them first - sort it our later".
More power to em!
We'll sort it all out later...if there are any left to sort out.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:08 pm to TX Tiger
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:16 pm to TX Tiger
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I agree, superficial ideals like justice and life are so overrated. We should just start killing folks. We'll sort it all out later...if there are any left to sort out.
How can someone so committed to the idea of justice and life become an enabler of Jihadists? Serious question.
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