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DC, Israel in pissing match
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:32 pm
The rhetoric between DC and Israel has heated up recently.
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Kerry and Obama have been pushing hard for an "unconditional humanitarian ceasefire" in Gaza, which Israel has bristled at in part because Hamas has honored NONE of the cease-fires that they've agreed to.
Kerry in particular pissed off Israel by insisting that Turkey and Qatar have a seat at the table of any peace discussions, despite neither being directly involved in the current conflict. Considering Turkey's anti-Israeli behavior since Edrogan took over, that one is a non-starter.
Both the left and right of Israeli politics are pissed off at the US over this.
Did I forget to mention that Kerry was specifically NOT invited to the discussions and yet showed up anyway despite being told he was unwelcome?
The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy, specifically mentioning Israel's comments about Kerry himself and his plans for the cease-fire.
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Kerry and Obama have been pushing hard for an "unconditional humanitarian ceasefire" in Gaza, which Israel has bristled at in part because Hamas has honored NONE of the cease-fires that they've agreed to.
Kerry in particular pissed off Israel by insisting that Turkey and Qatar have a seat at the table of any peace discussions, despite neither being directly involved in the current conflict. Considering Turkey's anti-Israeli behavior since Edrogan took over, that one is a non-starter.
Both the left and right of Israeli politics are pissed off at the US over this.
Did I forget to mention that Kerry was specifically NOT invited to the discussions and yet showed up anyway despite being told he was unwelcome?
The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy, specifically mentioning Israel's comments about Kerry himself and his plans for the cease-fire.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:35 pm to teke184
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Kerry and Obama have been pushing hard for an "unconditional humanitarian ceasefire" in Gaza
These unconditional unilateral ceasefires usually are one sided, but I trust Kerry and Obama to guarantee the Israel's safety, don't you? Why should the Israelis be worried?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:37 pm to teke184
quote:"They" being who?
Kerry and Obama have been pushing hard for an "unconditional humanitarian ceasefire" in Gaza, which Israel has bristled at in part because Hamas has honored NONE of the cease-fires that they've agreed to.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:39 pm to teke184
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Did I forget to mention that Kerry was specifically NOT invited to the discussions and yet showed up anyway despite being told he was unwelcome?
The #decline is real
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:39 pm to teke184
Israel should never again agree to a cease fire. They should adopt a "tit for tat" foreign policy.
If Hamas wants peace, simply stop the threats and rockets to Israel. Every time Hamas threatens Israel, Israel will remove said threat by force and every time Hamas strikes Israel Hamas will be struck back.
It very simple. Peace is up to Hamas.
If Hamas wants peace, simply stop the threats and rockets to Israel. Every time Hamas threatens Israel, Israel will remove said threat by force and every time Hamas strikes Israel Hamas will be struck back.
It very simple. Peace is up to Hamas.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:40 pm to teke184
quote:The reason for Turkey and Qatar having a seat at the discussions is because Israel refuses to negotiate directly with Hamas. The entire point of having peace discussions is that, at some point, you discuss things with people you don't already agree with.
Kerry in particular pissed off Israel by insisting that Turkey and Qatar have a seat at the table of any peace discussions, despite neither being directly involved in the current conflict. Considering Turkey's anti-Israeli behavior since Edrogan took over, that one is a non-starter.
If Israel categorically rejects any discussions with not only Hamas, but anyone who might not be sympathetic to Israel, then the entire exercise is pointless.
Refusing to discuss things with anyone but Egypt, which is run by a dictator who generally supports Israel's latter-day "Hell or Connacht" platform for Palestine, is a meaningless show.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:41 pm to teke184
I think it is fairly obvious that the democrats don't really care much for Israel, but they see this as an opportunity to make themselves look good if they can get a peace deal to go through.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:44 pm to teke184
We need to just let them go at it for a little while....start trying after a week or so.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 12:59 pm to teke184
quote:He should. We have a very specific interest in this. Let Israel throw him out, they wouldn't dare.
Did I forget to mention that Kerry was specifically NOT invited to the discussions and yet showed up anyway despite being told he was unwelcome?
quote:The only way we are going to get a peace deal done is if Israel feels some loss of support. We want them to stop too, right?
The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy, specifically mentioning Israel's comments about Kerry himself and his plans for the cease-fire.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 1:03 pm to teke184
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Kerry in particular pissed off Israel by insisting that Turkey and Qatar have a seat at the table of any peace discussions,
Kerry KNEW that sitting down with Davutoglu in Paris was a kick in the nuts toward Israel and did it anyway. This is how Davutoglu described Hamas on Sunday:
"In reality, it is an international emancipation movement cherishing many different opinions and approaches,”
This guy and Kerry are birds of a feather.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 1:06 pm to teke184
I don't think its a mystery who's side Obama is on. You don't hear him ask hamas to back off.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 1:16 pm to teke184
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The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy, specifically mentioning Israel's comments about Kerry
what a bunch of amateurs in the WH.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 1:18 pm to teke184
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The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy
Good.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 1:43 pm to teke184
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The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy,
Do you thin we will have one ally by the time Obama leaves office?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 2:04 pm to teke184
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The White House, in response, has said that Israeli behavior could put the relationship between the two nations in jeopardy, specifically mentioning Israel's comments about Kerry himself and his plans for the cease-fire.
It's time that our country severs ties with Israel.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 2:10 pm to teke184
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Israeli behavior
Yes, their warmongering mindset need adjusting. Maybe Hamas can teach them the proper etiquette
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