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re: What did Stephen A. Smith say?

Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:59 pm to
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I'm with you 100%. A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.

Right?
Put your feelings aside for a second--it isn't hard--and just look at what my post actually says.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:09 am to
You're grabbing the low-hanging fruit: crazy, violent women. Yes, if a woman attacks you, you should be able to defend yourself.

But let me show you how ridiculous your simple little equation is.

Husband makes bad business decision, loses all of family's money. Husband is pissed. Wife confronts husband and gets hit.

X = likelihood of wives getting hit who don't confront husbands

Y = likelihood of wives getting hit who do confront husbands

Y > X

Ergo, wives should never confront their husbands.

It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 12:13 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:15 am to
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It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.

But Smith's point is as simple as I'm making it out to be. I'll make it even simpler, and the following is undeniably true:

x = the likelihood of Person A striking Person B while Person B is being a loud, violent a-hole
y = the likelihood of Person A striking Person B while Person B is being nice and polite

x > y

Regardless of who you are, a universal we learn as toddlers is that it's a good idea to refrain from pissing a person off, especially when that person is bigger and stronger than you.

Another poster in this thread used the term "mitigating risk."
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:18 am to
I don't care enough to keep arguing.

SAS is still a shitbird.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:21 am to
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I don't care enough to keep putting words in your mouth.

Good. Your first response to me was very stupid.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:23 am to
Don't care.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259937 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:28 am to
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Regardless of who you are, a universal we learn as toddlers is that it's a good idea to refrain from pissing a person off, especially when that person is bigger and stronger than you.


Smith conveyed this poorly. Particularly with a very touchy subject matter and the drama that comes with it.

Not saying a goddamned thing would have been prudent.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:57 am to
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Don't care.
Then zip it.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:01 am to
quote:

Smith conveyed this poorly. Particularly with a very touchy subject matter and the drama that comes with it.
There is no drama that "comes with it." That drama is created by people like boom roasted who spin pragmatic comments into stupid drama shite like this:
quote:


I'm with you 100%. A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.

Right?
What kind of moron would twist the things I've said into such condoning of violence?

You are right, though. It would have been best that Stephen A. said nothing. That would always be best. I never hear him say anything since I'm not a retard who watches the network who employs him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259937 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:38 am to
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There is no drama that "comes with it."


You're one ignorant mofo. Domestic violence is an extremely touchy subject.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:59 am to
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You're one ignorant mofo. Domestic violence is an extremely touchy subject.
Stephen A. did not commit an act of violence. He made comments. And his comments about domestic violence itself were completely in line; he had nothing less than awful things to say of the men who commit violent acts against women.

The comments he made that drew ire were the comments that criticize some women for being assholes. That's the drama that was created out of thin air. You cannot deny that his message was that we need to do away with the animals who commit violent acts (especially those against women) and that while we're at it, it wouldn't hurt if some women took some reasonable measures in the spirit of looking out for themselves, and any drama resulting from those comments is completely manufactured by people looking for drama. boom roasted's response was that textbook "So a woman deserves to be hit if she mouths of to her husband? Got it." drama bullshite I'm talking about. These people are either dishonest or they're stupid enough to have been confused by that dummy Stephen A. Smith.

At any rate, there is nothing wrong with what he said, and there is nothing complicated with what he said. If you have an issue with someone expressing the belief that men who hit women deserve swift, hard punishment, and that some women could stand to work on how they treat people, then the issue is yours and yours alone, and nobody else needs to be fired on account of your need for drama.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 5:10 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:55 am to
I made the point on the poli boards thread about this.

Jay-Z and Solange in an elevator is a prime example of "provoke". I do not know what happened on Ray Rice elevator ride. Maybe Stephen does. But if a woman gets physical with a man and tries to fight like a man, then gets hit like a man? Maybe she slapped and hit him 10 times? All the while being told to stop and warned?

Women can be crazy and use the woman card to their advantage. If a woman goes for eyes or balls a mans instinctive response may be to lash out. If that man is a conditioned pro athlete that lash maybe result in a KO.

As always.... Stephen A. sucks.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:15 am to
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Women can be crazy and use the woman card to their advantage. If a woman goes for eyes or balls a mans instinctive response may be to lash out. If that man is a conditioned pro athlete that lash maybe result in a KO.
And I'll therefore take Smith's comments even further.

Men, don't hit.
Women, don't be crazy bitches.
Men, make crazy bitches outcasts. Don't hang around them. When they're being crazy bitches, shame them instead of persist in trying to frick them. A sane 6 is more valuable than an insane 10, and she's better in and out of bed.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19971 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:17 am to
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just read all of that and realized i really dont give a frick about any of this.




Thanks for helping me rationalize my own thoughts.

Also, what a poorly written piece of garbage.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:11 am to
quote:

A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.


No, a woman should behave like a civilized human being. Doing so will mitigate her risk of being physically assaulted. Men can follow the same advice.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:17 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259937 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Stephen A. did not commit an act of violence. He made comments. And his comments about domestic violence itself were completely in line


In today's society, keeping the trap shut is more prudent than expressing ambiguous ideas on assault victims. It's very easy to see where victims could draw conclusions that they are being blamed.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:18 am to
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No, a woman should behave like a civilized human being. Doing so will mitigate her risk of being physically assaulted.



Agree. Some women (key word being some) probably know in their head that this guy cant hit me so i can do whatever the hell I want. Thats really the only reason i would not have a problem with what stephen a said. No one ever asks what the girl did, ever. The guy still shouldnt ever hit her, but knowing what the girl did should be taken into some consideration
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:42 am to
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In today's society, keeping the trap shut is more prudent than expressing ambiguous ideas on assault victims.
Of course this is true, but Smith said nothing ambiguous. He called men who hit women "evil," and said that some women need to behave better. What's the goddamn problem?
quote:

It's very easy to see where victims could draw conclusions that they are being blamed.
I know. It's easy to play pretend.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:48 am to
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Of course this is true, but Smith said nothing ambiguous. He called men who hit women "evil," and said that some women need to behave better. What's the goddamn problem?


Thats how i saw it
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:55 am to
Smith was correct.
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