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re: Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:19 pm to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:19 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Another apt analogy which hurts my fable.
FIFY
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:26 pm to the808bass
It's irrelevant and meant to divert attention from your unfounded pro-Israeli argument.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:33 pm to Burt Reynolds
It's purely a tribal/pick-a-side thing. The majority of politards are christians. It's no surprise the popular/choice tribe in the bible belt is Israel.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:35 pm to Mack
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It's purely a tribal/pick-a-side thing. The majority of politards are christians. It's no surprise the popular/choice tribe in the bible belt is Israel.
Precisely
Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:39 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:Sounds like a great time!
Awesome. I was pretty much the only tourist. I just did a day layover in Cairo. Saw the pyramids and the Egyptian museum during the day then flew down to aswan that night. In aswan, I saw the unfinished obelisk and the temple of philae. I didn't get to see the temple of Horus at edfu but heard it was impressive. The next morning, I took a three hour mini van down to Abu simbel to see the temple of ramses 2. Took the train to luxor the next day. I saw valley of the kings (incredible), temple of Hatshepsut, medinet habu, and tombs of the nobles on the West Bank. That evening I took a Falooka out on the Nile, smoked some Egyptian grass, swam with the locals, and ate Ramadan dinner feast with them. Next day I did the east bank: temple of Karnak, temple of luxor and the luxor museum. I flew to cairo the next day and just hung out downtown. Cairo seems to be becoming more relaxed. I didn't see a lot of people wearing burkas or traditional garbs there like in the south. It seems to be westernizing a bit since Morsi was ousted. Overall an awesome experience.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:06 pm to Bamadiver
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Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and the religion will all be for Allah Alone. But if they cease then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.”
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“Whatever name you call Him by, all His names are beautiful.” [Surah 17:110]
(all faiths of Abraham)
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[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
remember both books have some ill words for those who don't believe in them.
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Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
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1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:08 pm to Burt Reynolds
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It's irrelevant and meant to divert attention from your unfounded pro-Israeli argument.
It's not irrelevant when Muslims did exactly the same things to the Jews that whites did the blacks here in the US.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:45 pm to the808bass
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It's not irrelevant when Muslims did exactly the same things to the Jews that whites did the blacks here in the US.
and one did the same thing that we did to the Indians.
Not against Israel, but they made their bed when they refused to give Palestine anything.
They live second class, in walled off areas with little access to resources. They are being pushed.
Pushed much harder than a 3 pence per pound tea tax...
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:14 pm to Napoleon
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Not against Israel, but they made their bed when they refused to give Palestine anything. They live second class, in walled off areas with little access to resources. They are being pushed. Pushed much harder than a 3 pence per pound tea tax...
808bass refuses to acknowledge this. He'll probably try to create another analogy to mend his precarious argument.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:25 pm to Burt Reynolds
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808bass refuses to acknowledge this. He'll probably try to create another analogy to mend his precarious argument.
The Palis are in a tough spot, I'll give you that. They have to decide between living and hating Jews. They pick hating Jews every fricking time.
If you'd quit trying to lie about the history of Jewish-Islamic relationships, I wouldn't have to keep correcting you.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:30 pm to the808bass
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The Palis are in a tough spot, I'll give you that. They have to decide between living and hating Jews. They pick hating Jews every fricking time.
There's a difference between hating an oppressor/terrorist and a religious group. Ignorant generalization bass boy. Why do you continue to support Israel? 30 pages, and you've still dodged the OP.
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If you'd quit trying to lie about the history of Jewish-Islamic relationships, I wouldn't have to keep correcting you.
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:45 pm to Napoleon
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They live second class, in walled off areas with little access to resources
who do you blame?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:54 pm to Burt Reynolds
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There's a difference between hating an oppressor/terrorist and a religious group. Ignorant generalization bass boy.
Are you saying that Palestinian animosity towards the Jews isn't at least partially religiously based? I wouldn't be surprised you believed that.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night
You have been corrected on this lie several times and yet continue to perpetuate it. It's intentional lying at this point for the purpose of propaganda.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 11:08 pm to Burt Reynolds
Burt, I don't think people support Israel as much as you think. More people are indifferent but don't blame them for doing what they are doing on a short sighted bases. Most don't want to try to dive in a fix something from the 40s. The facts are that the global community recognizes Israel who is getting shelled and no one blames them for going in and stopping the shelling..... Don't think the support for the most part goes past that.
Palestinians come across as a huge joke by backing Hamas and them keep shelling Israel which accomplishes shite but gets the hammer brought down on them. Darwinism at work in Gaza.
Palestinians come across as a huge joke by backing Hamas and them keep shelling Israel which accomplishes shite but gets the hammer brought down on them. Darwinism at work in Gaza.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 11:11 pm to SuperSaint
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The facts are that the global community recognizes Israel who is getting shelled and no one blames them for going in and stopping the shelling..... Don't think the support for the most part goes past that.
This is largely correct, IMO.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 11:25 pm to SuperSaint
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I don't think people support Israel as much as you think.
Yeah, right. And to support that claim you, yourself follow up with...quote:No, this isn't a one-sided deal.
The facts are that the global community recognizes Israel who is getting shelled and no one blames them for going in and stopping the shelling
quote:First of all, how do you know Palestinians back Hamas? Do Americans back Obama?
Palestinians come across as a huge joke by backing Hamas
For that matter, did Hamas even win the "election?"
quote:Yet living in slums under the thumb of Israel never enters the conversation. Why do you think that is?
keep shelling Israel
quote:Narcissism at work in the U.S.
Darwinism at work in Gaza.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 11:46 pm to the808bass
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Are you saying that Palestinian animosity towards the Jews isn't at least partially religiously based? I wouldn't be surprised you believed that. [/quote
No
[quote]You have been corrected on this lie several times and yet continue to perpetuate it. It's intentional lying at this point for the purpose of propaganda.
Not lying. I just came from morocco and Jews were coexisting with Muslims. Crazy hunh?
Try answering the OP.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:19 am to the808bass
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Are you saying that Palestinian animosity towards the Jews isn't at least partially religiously based?
That's like asking if Black folks' animosity towards Whites during the Jim Crow era was race-based. Israel's oppression of the Palestinians is solely religiously-based, so it's human nature for the Palestinians to respond in kind. FYI, Palestinians live amongst and even intermarry Christians, so I don't see why the same wouldn't be true for Jews, if Israel abandoned its apartheid ideology of Jewish supremacy. FYI, both Hamas and Hezbollah accept Christians and Hezbollah even supported the restoration of a Beirut synagogue that was badly damaged in the Lebanon war.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:25 am to Burt Reynolds
quote:Very very poor example.
I just came from morocco and Jews were coexisting with Muslims
Jews and Muslims coexist in many countries, including Israel.
How does that coexistence work out in muslim theocracies?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:38 am to NC_Tigah
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How does that coexistence work out in muslim theocracies?
I'm against theocracies of any kind, but Jews do seem to be getting along in Iran okay.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 8:17 am
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