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re: Teacher tells student not to read bible in free time
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:03 am to Cruiserhog
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:03 am to Cruiserhog
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only the Lord of the Rings trilogy probably has better and more morality than the Bible...
probably should switch, dont you think!
no thanks
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:04 am to Cruiserhog
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Lord of the Rings trilogy probably has better and more morality than the Bible...
More believable too
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:04 am to Gray Tiger
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marriage is not trivial to many people, especially in a society based around marriage as a social construct AND legal advantages to being married. there are many parts of our legal system (both state and federal) incentivizing marriage...and a particular group is banned solely on religious grounds
if you are arguing bans on gay marriage aren't based in religion, then you are being intellectually dishonest
This then is your principal issue? You seem to have narrowed the scope.
Let me see if I understand you. Non believers are oppressed everywhere because of gay marriage being illegal in a few states?
That's not the religious persecuting the non-religious. That's the religious persecuting gays of all faiths and non faiths. Whether those gays are Muslim, Catholic, Jewish, or Atheist, it doesn't matter. Their "lack of faith" is not the issue, it's their sexual orientation.
The idea that atheists are repressed in this country more so than every other group is laughable on its face. Are they discriminated against in some fashion? Yes, but so is everyone for one reason or another. Jews, Blacks, Native Americans, and even people who wear crocs, Tap/Out, jorts, cargo shorts, and Affliction are more discriminated against as a whole than atheists.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:04 am to Choctaw
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oogle atheists and public schools....if anything its the atheists that are trying to do the oppressing
absolute bullshite, you can honetly post this knowing dozens of schools boards, dozens of state legistlatures, the ICR, the Discovery Institue, the Creationist Museum, are constantly trying to get Judeo Christians mythos taught as science in classrooms across America?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:06 am to RemouladeSawce
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It's a sad day when there's no place for fiction in a classroom.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:07 am to Rickety Cricket
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More believable too
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...i know right! HAHAHAHAHAHA Christians are so dumb. us athiests know everything!
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:08 am to Revelator
Well, that teacher is a moron. There is no justification of her actions.
Also, there were so many damn grammatical errors in that article. It was painful to read.
Also, there were so many damn grammatical errors in that article. It was painful to read.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:08 am to Cruiserhog
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absolute bullshite, you can honetly post this knowing dozens of schools boards, dozens of state legistlatures, the ICR, the Discovery Institue, the Creationist Museum, are constantly trying to get Judeo Christians mythos taught as science in classrooms across America?
i can honestly post that knowing that athiests groups are constantly sueing schools boards and academic institutions because their little feelings are always getting hurt the moment someone mentions religion. this thread kinda proves that
skip the topic at hand and go straight to the religion bashing
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:09 am to Rickety Cricket
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Lord of the Rings trilogy probably has better and more morality than the Bible...
More believable too
Any book that perpetrates the falsehood that it's acceptable practice to describe every item, plant, and historical fact about a valley where nothing significant to the plot happens while major battles involving main characters is glossed over should be burned as heresy
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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when people reach a level of maturity/enlightenment/security, i presume it fades (as it did with me)
There is obviously a group of atheists in this thread that haven't found this maturity level yet.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:17 am to Revelator
Well that teacher is an idiot who doesn't understand what "free reading" time is.
Or does she?
Sounds like there is plenty of stupid to go around in this story
Or does she?
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The family of 12-year-old Giovanni Rubeo says their child wasn’t allowed to read his Bible during “free reading” class periods that gave students the option of reading any book they wished. The Broward school district disputes this version of events, and says the boy wasn’t allowed to read the Bible because there was an “accelerated reading” program taking place.
Had there been a “free reading” session going on, Broward officials say the Bible would have been permitted. Rubeo is a student at Park Lakes Elementary in Lauderdale Lakes.
In his comments on Tuesday, Runcie said administrators at Park Lakes — and schools across the district — are being reminded that the Bible is permitted during free reading sessions. Students are also allowed to read their Bibles before and after school starts, and during lunch.
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In Broward, the Liberty Institute’s attorneys had threatened legal action against the school system unless it publicly apologized and allowed for the Bible to be read during “free reading” periods.
With Runcie’s public apology — and the district’s insistence that the Bible had all along been acceptable during “free reading” — those conditions appear to have been met.
But in a letter e-mailed to the school district on Tuesday, Liberty Institute director of litigation Hiram Sasser demanded assurances that Giovanni be allowed to read his Bible during “accelerated reading program” class periods as well.
“If we do not receive a satisfactory response, we will proceed with the appropriate legal steps up to and including litigation,” Sasser wrote.
Sounds like there is plenty of stupid to go around in this story
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:21 am to Green Chili Tiger
I wonder what the difference is between the district's "accelerated reading time" and its "free reading time".
If they're using the "accelerated" time to ban reading materials that are acceptable during "free" time, this could be a problem waiting for a lawsuit.
If they're using the "accelerated" time to ban reading materials that are acceptable during "free" time, this could be a problem waiting for a lawsuit.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:21 am to Green Chili Tiger
What is an"accelerated reading program"?
We didn't have periods dedicated to reading books when I was in school.
We didn't have periods dedicated to reading books when I was in school.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:22 am to Green Chili Tiger
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In his comments on Tuesday, Runcie said administrators at Park Lakes — and schools across the district — are being reminded that the Bible is permitted during free reading sessions. Students are also allowed to read their Bibles before and after school starts, and during lunch.
The teacher very plainly says in the voicemail left that religious materials are not allowed in her classroom so the material you presented doesn't jive.
Sounds like the school is scrambling to find a technical loophole to cover their backs after the fact.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:29 am to Scruffy
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What is an"accelerated reading program"?
We didn't have periods dedicated to reading books when I was in school.
Accelerated Reading is a program where kids earn points (generally between .5 and 5 per book) for reading fiction books and then taking short computerized tests that test their reading comprehension. They started the program when I was in 3rd grade. Generally, the longer the book, the more points its worth (i.e., the 5th Harry Potter novel is worth more than "Little House on the Prairie"). There's a set list of books in the program. The points can be spent on prizes. Generally, the glass with the most points gets a pizza party or something to that nature.
If this was "accelerated reading" time, then the teacher was in the right. If this was "free-reading" time, then the student was in the right.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:30 am to Wtodd
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I've never been able to figure out why these types get so butthurt over something they don't believe in.
Its because as much as they say they don't believe. Every human has the knowledge in them and know that life isn't a accident.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:31 am to kingbob
We had that, but you had to do it in your free time.
Can't remember the name of the program.
Can't remember the name of the program.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:32 am to kingbob
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If this was "accelerated reading" time, then the teacher was in the right. If this was "free-reading" time, then the student was in the right.
The teacher said in the voicemail," no religious materials are allowed in my classroom!"
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:34 am to Scruffy
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What is an"accelerated reading program"?
Accelerated Reading typically consists of assigned reading that is usually above the students grade level.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:34 am to Revelator
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The teacher said in the voicemail," no religious materials are allowed in my classroom!"
Then she handled the situation poorly. She should not have said that, but she was in the right for asking the kid not to read his bible during "accelerated reading" time if that was the case.
Accelerated reading was generally supposed to be on your own, but occassionally, they would allow us to have an hour to read to ourselves, generally around when the program kicked off to start the new year.
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