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re: Please help me understand: Liberalism

Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:18 pm to
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Do you believe that we should send Child immigrants back to central America immediately? That would clash with your anti-abortion stance.



really? please make that mental leap for me???
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Do you believe that we should send Child immigrants back to central America immediately?

Yes
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That would clash with your anti-abortion stance.

No. It's too late to abort them.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49132 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:32 pm to
Honduras' murder rate is six times chicago's

1.73% of San Pedro Sula's population is murdered a year.
Posted by LSUandAU
Key West, FL & Malibu (L.A.), CA
Member since Apr 2009
5058 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:34 pm to
Liberalism cannot be explained...in most forms, it is a mental illness!
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:36 pm to
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How can the proponents of a belief system defend an unborn child so vigorously yet also be so pro death penalty? Mind boggling


1. Dodge question you can't answer
2. Respond with new argument instead of answering any question that's asked.

This is why I stopped even conversing about politics with people who define themselves as liberal. They never answer any questions, and change the subject when any decent point is made against their way of thinking.

EAT: Conservatives can be just as annoying, but at least they come back at you with an answer and a defense to it.

Lefties essentially make responses that sound like "uh, well uh....ummmmm....Bush was bad!!"

This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49132 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:48 pm to
How is San Pedro's problem our problem??
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
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Please help me understand: Liberalism


20 Examples of What Liberalism REALLY Is

1) Liberalism is college professors and documentary filmmakers accumulating vast fortunes in a capitalistic system by decrying the evils of capitalism.

2) Liberalism is claiming that the "border is secure" while saying we shouldn't deport anyone who illegally crosses the border.

3) Liberalism is "environmental activists" flying across the world to ride together in SUVs to posh environmental conferences where they call for everyone else to live like cavemen in order to save the planet.

4) Liberalism is spewing hatred and profanity at conservative women, calling for gun control that leaves women defenseless against rapists and murderers, and celebrating misogynistic pigs like Bill Clinton while accusing OTHER PEOPLE of being engaged in a "war on women."

5) Liberalism is people who say that asking for voter ID is racist while claiming that black Americans are too uniquely stupid and lazy to get an ID.

6) Liberalism is forcibly taking money you don't deserve from the people who earned it and calling THEM greedy for not wanting to give you even more.

7) Liberalism is saying that the government should confiscate guns from NRA members and kill them if they resist and then claiming that you have no idea why they think that they need guns to defend themselves.

8) Liberalism is people who sneer at displays of the American flag, tell the world America isn't exceptional, and criticize the country non-stop while getting offended if their patriotism is questioned.

9) Liberalism is calling for higher taxes while you cheat on your own taxes.

10) Liberalism is bitter, race-obsessed people who see EVERYTHING in racial terms, accusing OTHER PEOPLE of being racists.

11) Liberalism is saying you're for "choice" because you support abortion while opposing giving Americans choices about their health care, schools, whether they want to bake cakes for gay weddings, or even the light bulbs they have in their house.

12) Liberalism is calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist, bigoted, homophobic Nazi and then calling OTHER PEOPLE hateful.

13) Liberalism is considering yourself compassionate for wanting to forcibly confiscate other people's money to give away to constituent groups you hope will vote for you in exchange for the loot.

14) Liberalism is saying George W. Bush is a monkey who started the war in Iraq to "steal their oil" while becoming furious if anyone criticizes Obama.

15) Liberalism is pretending that Christians are dangerous while radical Islamists chanting "Death to America" and advocating Sharia law are harmless little lambs.

16) Liberalism is calling for guns to be taken away from Americans while you're protected by armed guards.

17) Liberalism is millionaires who have more money than they could spend in a lifetime railing against the horrors of "income inequality."

18) Liberalism is "animal rights activists" who eat meat and wear leather shoes screaming profanity at women who hunt.

19) Liberalism is black pundits who got their jobs solely because they're black and willing to call other people racists going on TV and claiming that white gas station attendants and fast food workers are benefitting from "privilege" because of their race.

20) Liberalism is thinking of yourself as an independent, open-minded free thinker for mindlessly parroting whatever the Democrat Party line is on every issue.


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Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:01 pm to
This board has gone way down hill
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:12 pm to
Because their children showed up on our doorstep. (And because we fund the drug trade that fuels the violence)

We are not in a position of inaction. We don't have the choice to do nothing. We have the choice to deliberately put children in harm's way or to bite the bullet and find a better solution.

Think about it like this, you're out in a boat and someone drowns in the lake. You don't know about it and there's nothing you can do. You are not culpable. Now consider this, you're out on the boat with a lot of people having a good time, when a drowning person sees you and swims to you. You see him and you're presented with a choice. You can save him, but it's going to come at the cost of your party and also a tiny risk of tipping your boat and endangering everyone. Or you can point him towards land and wish him good luck.

Could you live with yourself if he drowned? Would that moment you refused to save your brother haunt you if he survived? What Would Jesus Do?
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:19 pm to
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20) Liberalism is thinking of yourself as an independent, open-minded free thinker for mindlessly parroting whatever the Democrat Party line is on every issue.
FWD: FWD: FWD:
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109819 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:36 pm to
You're an idiot
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109819 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:38 pm to
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It's a mental disorder. If you are dumb, you could be duped into being a Liberal, because you are stupid. If you are of average or higher intelligence, but, yet, are a Liberal, you have some kind of mental or personality disorder. Many millions of Americans are stupid, or, are afflicted with mental or personality disorders. That's why there are so many of these idiot Liberals.


I find it laughable that you don't think of yourself as being afflicted with stupidity.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109819 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:43 pm to
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Also, I'm more of a libertarian than anything else, though I always vote Republican. You can assume that roughly half the country is "childish and/or stupid" and that you are the enlightened one if you wish. However, a lot can be gained by putting bias aside and actually considering the opinions of those you think you disagree with.


Well put. Smart people actually listen to the other side of the argument and consider their position, viewpoint, and how they arrived there. Idiot extremists simply look at their own background and blindly dismiss anything that disagrees with it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:45 pm to
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a better solution. Think about it like this, you're out in a boat and someone drowns in the lake. You don't know about it and there's nothing you can do. You are not culpable. Now consider this, you're out on the boat with a lot of people having a good time, when a drowning person sees you and swims to you. You see him and you're presented with a choice. You can save him, but it's going to come at the cost of your party and also a tiny risk of tipping your boat and endangering everyone. Or you can point him towards land and wish him good luck.







Jesus christ. Who was that little story for?
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:53 pm to
Strannix asking how San Pedro Sula is our problem. I should have quoted.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109819 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:59 pm to
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Conservatives want freedom. Liberals want equality. Both seem like good principles but freedom has a clear definition while libs keep redefining what it means to be equal.



If you're pro-War on Drugs and anti-gay marriage, you are full of shite.

quote:

or adding new government contracts that don't really change anything about what you are free to do and really change nothing about freedom (gay marriage).


Ok, you stupid mother fricker. I'm not going to talk with you anymore, and enjoy throwing stones from your glass house. "Freedom is something only I agree with" mentality is bullshite. The fact that you're against people entering contracts with someone means you're completely full of shite and a buffoon.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49132 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:03 pm to
Illegal immigrants invading our country for handouts is a huge problem, we are drowning in Chinese debt and can't take dare of our own citizens, this is madness.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49132 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:06 pm to
Please explain to me how a teenage girl who aborts a baby has made a heroic choice supported by leftists as a sacred right, yet a teenage girl shoots a deer and receives death threats?

For the record I don't care about abortion or gay issues I'm anti war on drugs and against the police state and nation building.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109819 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:16 pm to
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A conservative sees the world as it actually is.





To start off I'm a borderline libertarian, but I've met many, many conservatives who are completely blind to the world as a whole. They don't see the world outside of their own little community, and they've rarely traveled outside of the country. In order to see the world as it truly is, I think you have to leave your own country. You're merely seeing a biased viewpoint of it, instead of the outsiders perspective. Both liberals and conservatives as a whole don't see the world for what it is, for if you did, you'd find it difficult in your mind to find yourself to be blindly conservative or liberal, and even myself, I can't be a blind libertarian since there are some things I disagree with them as a whole.

If you want to see the world as it is, go to an Indian village engulfed in poverty and no way out. Go to a Chinese orphanage. Go to Western Europe and the Balkins and compare it. See things for yourself, instead of blindly taking your leaders words for it, who wish to manipulate you. That is the only way to see what you know as the truth, and trust me the press is toxic to that. They want to divide you into extremes rather than people with rational motives and understanding.

Both the conservatives and liberals are heavily flawed and are missing the point. In fact, I don't think the sides are as different as we pretend, and it's merely an illusion that is overcast by Congress. Seriously, isn't always a pretty big story when a Senator or Congressman is upset? May only happen 3 times every 4 years? It's because they've got a system going, and people are blind to it because of the "team sides". All they care about is staying in power, and despite Congress' approval ratings as a whole being in the teens, we always vote these corrupt cocksuckers back into power, and they go laughing to the banks. It's not a liberal or conservative difference. In the end, we're all the losers, but the division between the teams blinds us to the reality of our country. This thread is definitive proof of that.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 6:27 pm
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