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re: Please help me understand: Liberalism
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:36 pm to inelishaitrust
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:36 pm to inelishaitrust
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You are unaware of segregation in schools today?
The only segregation i'm aware of are the racist bigoted black only colleges.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:38 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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People who vote for gay marriage bans are voting to limit the contractual freedom of their fellow man.
Nope.
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Government has been involved in marriage for centuries. Not gonna change.
If the gay "marriage" folks had really been interested in freedom, this would have changed. They were more interested in restricting it.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i could if we were talking in person but i'm not going to waste 2 hours of my life trying to do it on here because i'll end up having to argue with all the mouth breathers trying to push their warped and largely false perceptions of what liberalism is.
In a nutshell, Social Liberalism (which is what we consider liberalism in the US) is the belief in semi-free markets with government intrusion on behalf of vulnerable groups.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:43 pm to Antonio Moss
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vulnerable groups
As defined by liberals.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:55 pm to Strannix
A liberal sees the world as he wants it to be.
A conservative sees the world as it actually is.
I am not either, I identify more with conservatives but some of their stances on issues are just comical.
I don't really care about alot of the social issues that come up such as gay marriage and the immigration crap, I care about real issues such as economy and jobs. I care about govt trampling peoples rights. Instead of looking at ways to clamp down on people we should be exploring ways to give people even more freedoms. We are still the best thing going and to continue being the light shining we need to be going in a different direction.
A conservative sees the world as it actually is.
I am not either, I identify more with conservatives but some of their stances on issues are just comical.
I don't really care about alot of the social issues that come up such as gay marriage and the immigration crap, I care about real issues such as economy and jobs. I care about govt trampling peoples rights. Instead of looking at ways to clamp down on people we should be exploring ways to give people even more freedoms. We are still the best thing going and to continue being the light shining we need to be going in a different direction.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:06 pm to Champagne
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It's a mental disorder.
If you are dumb, you could be duped into being a Liberal, because you are stupid.
If you are of average or higher intelligence, but, yet, are a Liberal, you have some kind of mental or personality disorder.
Many millions of Americans are stupid, or, are afflicted with mental or personality disorders. That's why there are so many of these idiot Liberals.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cuckoo Alert!
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:08 pm to PhoenixLSUTiger
It's pretty clear that certain leftist beliefs can only be explained by a mental disorder, white guilt for example
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:12 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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but i'm not going to waste
Why are you here?
Why are you what you are, if you can't explain it?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:13 pm to PhoenixLSUTiger
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Cuckoo Alert!
Right out of the Alinsky playbook. Ridicule.
No way to rebut or refute, because that's beyond your mental capability, so, resort to childish tactics of ridicule.
Very Liberal of you.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:20 pm to Champagne
You claimed that every liberal is an idiot or has a mental disorder. How can you call someone out for responding to your name-calling with name-calling?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:In other words, I can't answer the question so I will spit out an insult instead.
i could if we were talking in person but i'm not going to waste 2 hours of my life trying to do it on here because i'll end up having to argue with all the mouth breathers trying to push their warped and largely false perceptions of what liberalism is.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:22 pm to Champagne
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Right out of the Alinsky playbook. Ridicule.
No way to rebut or refute, because that's beyond your mental capability, so, resort to childish tactics of ridicule.
Very Liberal of you.
Thank you! That means a lot to me coming from you. I can now go on with my life.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:22 pm to Strannix
Do anything that makes you feel good. Expect no consequences for your actions. If you can't afford something and nobody wants to pAy for it assume they just declared war one you!
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:22 pm to funnystuff
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Do you really not see how dangerous it is to live life this way?
Liberalism is dangerous.
Liberals are dangerous.
Look at what happens when Democrat Liberals are the dominant political power in a US jurisdication, be it, local, state or national. This is just one example.
Another example of how Liberalism is illogical and prone to misrepresentation. A good example is a point in your post. Your point is that there are many people who do not believe that life begins at conception, and that we all need to accept that.
That's really a stupid point, because objective science is quite clear that a new life does begin at conception. What is not clear is the legal status of that life. Many believe that because this living fetus is not a person in the legal sense, that a woman's right to abortion takes precedence. So, we have the abortion issue.
But you are too blockheaded to see that nuance, and you roll up your simpleton's argument into a really stupid comment like: Not everybody believes that life begins at conception.
The only people who don't believe that a new life has begun at conception are people who know nothing about science. They are Flat-Earthers and people who believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth. They are anti-science.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:25 pm to Strannix
White students are allowed in Black colleges. Colleges that were founded because Blacks weren't allowed to attend White colleges like Ole Miss and LSU until the mid 60's.
Most segregation today is a result of white flight and private schools.
Most segregation today is a result of white flight and private schools.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:32 pm to inelishaitrust
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Most segregation today is a result of white flight and private schools
Yeah, I've heard it's really bad up north.
Most conservatives think parents should get a choice when it comes to where their child goes to school. Seems most lib-progs are opposed. Why is that?
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:35 pm to inelishaitrust
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Most segregation today is a result of white flight and private schools.
It's because people prefer to be around those who share similar values and are in a similar socioeconomic class. This isn't exclusive to white folks.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:52 pm to Champagne
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Not everybody believes that life begins at conception
This is a classic straw-man
The actual point of contention in the abortion debate is "Where does humanity begin?" Humans don't unanimously believe that life is sacred. Those of us who aren't Jains don't think twice about swatting a mosquito, shooting a buck, or eating a burger. If we deem it more advantageous than not to end a life, we do it. The question isn't "Is it alive?" It's "Is it Human?" "What defines Humanity?"
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:59 pm to inelishaitrust
Ok what I am asking is why liberals wholeheartedly support the taking of a fetus but will make death threats against a teenage girl who shot a deer, this is my disconnect.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:16 pm to Strannix
The same reason you have people who are against abortion, but are willing to go to actual war for the sake of political ideology. Example: Vietnam.
The reason is that we are flawed beings. Sometimes our beliefs are ill-formed and inconsistent.
Do you believe that we should send Child immigrants back to central America immediately? That would clash with your anti-abortion stance.
The reason is that we are flawed beings. Sometimes our beliefs are ill-formed and inconsistent.
Do you believe that we should send Child immigrants back to central America immediately? That would clash with your anti-abortion stance.
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