re: The Official Comic Book Villain Tournament (Round I)Vote Off Needed (Page 6)

Going to pull the Flash Defense here:

So Loki finds out he's going to fight a random foe from this tournament right? He knows it's on Monday, so on Sunday he teleports to moon and hangs out for a bit.

When game time comes on Monday, he mind controls another hero, let's say Strong Guy (lame hero), cloaks him as Loki and sends him to fight Amazo. Strong Guy isn't powerful enough, and Loki willingly throws the fight to see what Amazo can do. Loki finds out that Amazo copied Strong Guy's powers and he's strong. Cool.

So Loki immediately creates an intangible copy to gather some more information. Amazo is even more confused because there's nothing there to copy. He can swing, fly, shoot him with beams and nothing happens.

While confused, Loki teleports in, uses the scepter, boosts the power and decapitates Amazo with one swing.

Ball game. In a very Loki-like way.

Loki would never show himself unless he had enough information first, and that goes for almost ANY fight he can do that in. That plays heavily in his favor since Amazo's ability relies on Loki's presence being there. Amazo would only be able to copy Loki when Loki shows himself, which would be far too late.

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Loki is the God of Trickery, if anyone is going to confuse Amazo it is Loki. *Also is Loki even classified as a metahuman?

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Even if he tricks him, how is he going to finish Amazo off? It just seems like Loki could get off one shot, and then Amazo would destroy him.

Match #1
place #1: Mr. Sinister
place #2: Quicksilver
Match #2
place #1: Cheetah
place #2: Silver Samurai
Match #3
place #1: Poison Ivy
place #2: Carnage
Match #4
place #1: Brainiac
place #2: Super Skrull
Match #5
place #1: Despero
place #2: Omega Red
Match #6
place #1: Bullseye
place #2: Queen Bee
Match #7
place #1: Hellblazer (Preacher)
place #2: Gideon Gordan Graves (Scott Pilgrim)
Match #8
place #1: Gorilla Grodd
place #2: Violator (Spawn)
Match #9
place #1: Blackheart
place #2: Black Mask
Match #10
place #1: Solomon Grundy
place #2: Mandarin
Match #11
place #1: Joker
place #2: Ra\'al Ghul
Match #12
place #1: Doctor Doom
place #2: General Zod
Match #13
place #1: Lex Luther (Suit)
place #2: Thanos
Match #14
place #1: Negan (The Walking Dead)Prometheus
place #2: Doctor Octopus
Match #15
place #1: Scarecrow
place #2: Professor Zoom (Reverse Flash)
Match #16
place #1: Prometheus
place #2: Alien Queen (Aliens/Aliens V. Predator/Judge Dredd)
Match #17
place #1: The Governor (The Walking Dead)
place #2: Sinestro
Match #18
place #1: Doomsday
place #2: Black Adam
Match #19
place #1: Deathstroke
place #2: Abomination
Match #20
place #1: Venom
place #2: Mr. Freeze
Match #21
place #1: Vandal Savage
place #2: Bane
Match #22
place #1: Juggernaut
place #2: Shredder (TMNT)
Match #23
place #1: Sentinel
place #2: Mother fricker (Kick arse)
Match #24
place #1: Daken
place #2: Darkseid
Match #25
place #1: Amazo
place #2: Loki
Match #26
place #1: Red Skull
place #2: Sabretooth
Match #27
place #1: Taskmaster
place #2: Black Manta
Match #28
place #1: Owl Man
place #2: Mephistto
Match #29
place #1: The Green Goblin
place #2: Darth Vader (Star Wars)
Match #30
place #1: Jigsaw
place #2: Magneto
Match #31
place #1: Super Woman
place #2: Apocalypse
Match #32
place #1: Grigori Rasputin (Hellboy)
place #2: Ultron

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It's Blue Beetle all over again.

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I'm just saying that his power is that he copies powers. Heck, he even copied a Green Lantern ring (I just saw that in Comic Vine, I had forgotten about that).

But I'm not going to argue like I did for Blue Beetle. Since Loki is basically a god-tier character, I'm ok with him winning. In the end, writers have evolved the characters to points where they are almost unbeatable. Loki was originally only a trickster, who they've changed into being so powerful that he can physically take on people like Thor (and evidently Silver Surfer, which I didn't know). But I'm just saying that whatever Loki can do, so can Amazo plus every other character he has fought in the past. So Amazo has more powers than just those of Loki.

But whoever says that Deathstroke can take Abomination is out of their mind, and I'm as big of a DC guy as there is on this board.

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I'm just saying that his power is that he copies powers. Heck, he even copied a Green Lantern ring (I just saw that in Comic Vine, I had forgotten about that).

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That seems odd since the power of ring comes from the lantern, etc. There's no way that actually worked right?

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But I'm not going to argue like I did for Blue Beetle. Since Loki is basically a god-tier character, I'm ok with him winning. In the end, writers have evolved the characters to points where they are almost unbeatable. Loki was originally only a trickster, who they've changed into being so powerful that he can physically take on people like Thor (and evidently Silver Surfer, which I didn't know).

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See my argument above. There are at least 10 or 15 people in this tournament who Loki would lose too, Amazo just isn't one. My argument is that if I'm putting two people on fairly equal footing, provided by Amazo abilities to copy powers, then I'm immediately going to take the one who thinks more outside of the box, not in the box. Right? That I'm taking the mast manipulator, the one who can outsmart the other. Loki's just that kind of guy. He won't be "on the same footing" with a Brainiac or a Professor Zoom. Those are completely different.

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But whoever says that Deathstroke can take Abomination is out of their mind, and I'm as big of a DC guy as there is on this board.

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Abomination has limits and he's just angry. I think Deathstroke finds a way to take him down

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So Loki purposely looses in the first round and gets eliminated??

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Did you miss:

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"Strong Guy" isn't powerful enough, and Loki willingly throws the fight to see what Amazo can do.

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This is someone else cloaked as Loki. Loki hasn't lost yet. It's a....trick. Strong Guy cloaked as Loki for instance.

At least we got to 4 pages without the

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Yeah, people are clearly just going for the brand name here

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Complaints

So sad. I mean you realize this kind of thinking seems to invalidate anyone that disagrees with you? It's the exact stuff that creates the battle because seemingly it's in two DC vs. Marvel matchups. Coincidence?

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Venom is fast, powerful, and has incredible senses. If Freeze shoots him, he's screwed, but I think he'd be able to evade him since he's slow.

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Freeze is no slouch.

Venom can be overly cocky. I could see him taking a shot on thinking he could just shake it off.

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Amazo just isn't one. My argument is that if I'm putting two people on fairly equal footing, provided by Amazo abilities to copy powers, then I'm immediately going to take the one who thinks more outside of the box, not in the box. Right?

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Yeah, but my argument is that they aren't on equal footing since Amazo has copied other character's powers over the years. But I'm ok with Loki winning even though I'm going with Amazo.

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Abomination has limits and he's just angry. I think Deathstroke finds a way to take him down

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So you think Deathstroke could go toe to toe with the Hulk?