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Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:22 pm to kywildcatfanone
I've got a 95 f150 with the straight 6 rusting up behind my folks house. Been thinking about pulling it out and restoring it.
Wonder how hard it would be to switch it over to a v8
Wonder how hard it would be to switch it over to a v8
Posted on 7/13/14 at 7:57 pm to Clames
You're definitely a ford fanboy.
Own up to it. It'll put you in the majority around here
Own up to it. It'll put you in the majority around here
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:28 pm to Clames
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Your memory sucks. Go find that thread and quote me where I made such an argument. After you've failed doing that you can do your chores like you're supposed to
If my chore was to make you look worse than you already do in this thread, then consider it done.
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It really doesn't. I know a few trucks with 4V heads swapped on that would make your guy's 6.0L swapped truck cry uncle. Wouldn't even have to use the drugs either. 5.4's are limited more by the fact they have 4+ inches of throw in the crank than anything else.
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The 5.4L engine itself though is a good platform since the cranks, blocks, and rods can take a ton of power. GM had to build a specialty engine block because nothing they had would even approach the power levels hotrodders could make on factory 4.6/5.4 blocks.
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All things considered I could build a 5.4L-based engine that makes more power, more reliably, and with maintenance than you ever could with an LSx based engine.
LINK
But no, you aren't a fan boy at all, right?
Just so you know, I have no issue with someone being fanboy of a certain brand. I go to bat for Ram/Chrysler any chance I get...what I get irritated with is your know-it-all, "holier than thou" attitude. You're as Ford fanboy as it gets...but you're denying it and accusing a poster who has driven both Ford and GM (among other makes/models) of being a fanboy? GTFO with that shite.
ETA: And FWIW, I know multiple people who either paid, or were quoted, at least $2000.00 to replace spark plugs in a 5.4. Argue all you want, but that was a pretty fricking huge design flaw and continues to be to this day. I was just talking to a guy with an '05 F150 about it Friday evening.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:58 pm to jordan21210
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Posted by jordan21210
Dodges suck...
That is all.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:02 pm to jordan21210
Nice try but you failed since you obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. In none of those quotes did I make a definitive 5.4L > 6.0L suggestion. Obviously talking about hotrodded 4V 5.4's vs similar 6.0's and there is no disputing the factory 4.6L/5.4L blocks can withstand more power than any mass produced GM block and the iron and aluminum 5.4L production blocks equal or better the non-production GMPP iron LSX block. Simple fact that the fastest Pro-mod in the Ford vs GM category runs a factory production block in Ford Modular format.
As for the rest you can shove it hard right along side your buddy who's taking it up the can on a $2000 quote for a repair he could do himself for $400 even with a screw-up like you helping...
Ford did address that issue and there is a kit anyone can buy to not only fix a broken plug but proactively take care of the others. Continues to this day? You not aware that style of plug nor engine is in production anymore? 2005 was almost a decade ago in case you haven't looked at a calendar recently. Go look at the plugs in a 5.0 or 6.2 and see if they look like the 3V 5.4L plugs. Go find a bench Forest...maybe you'll find your pushrod Toyota 5.7L
As for the rest you can shove it hard right along side your buddy who's taking it up the can on a $2000 quote for a repair he could do himself for $400 even with a screw-up like you helping...
Ford did address that issue and there is a kit anyone can buy to not only fix a broken plug but proactively take care of the others. Continues to this day? You not aware that style of plug nor engine is in production anymore? 2005 was almost a decade ago in case you haven't looked at a calendar recently. Go look at the plugs in a 5.0 or 6.2 and see if they look like the 3V 5.4L plugs. Go find a bench Forest...maybe you'll find your pushrod Toyota 5.7L
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:11 pm to Clames
So the block can handle the power and the rest of the motor is shite.
Got it.
Got it.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:13 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
That's what I got out of the statement too
But he's not a fanboy not at all
But he's not a fanboy not at all
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:20 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Factory forged C38 Mod steel cranks are good for 1500+ hp (cast versions are good for about 900hp FI), 5.4L PM rods are good for about 700hp under boost, leaving the cast hypereutectic pistons as the "weak" point but can live with about 600 - 700hp under pressure with solid tuning. But since GM uses cast hyper pistons too (along with everyone else) they get a pass.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:20 pm to CBDTigerFan
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That's what I got out of the statement too
Guess that means your as ignorant as he is.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:24 pm to Clames
What's the point of tuning a pick up truck to 600-700 hp
Other than having a small penis
Other than having a small penis
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:25 pm to CBDTigerFan
To make penis-obsessed individuals like you mad. Why tune diesel trucks to make 1000+ ft-lbs of torque? Do you get mad at them too?
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:28 pm to Clames
I don't get mad at anyone
I just don't see the point
Ask hammertime about tuning a diesel believe it or not it was a ford that went to shite
I just don't see the point
Ask hammertime about tuning a diesel believe it or not it was a ford that went to shite
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:34 pm to CBDTigerFan
So what if you don't see the point? People tune up sports cars so why not trucks? You obviously get mad since it brings up penis insults with you. Why would I ask anyone here about diesel tuning? I've wrenched on diesels since the old GM 6.5L.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:46 pm to CBDTigerFan
Making things faster is cool.
The next Vette I get I'm gonna take it to the strip with the drive-out tags still on it.
The next Vette I get I'm gonna take it to the strip with the drive-out tags still on it.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:05 pm to VetteGuy
GM needs to bring back a true world beater like they did with the 90's ZR1's and take it a step further. Go the same route they did with the LT5 with a complete departure from the small block architecture. Hand built, very limited production run (like Ford did with the Cobra R's), and stripped down of creature comforts: no A/C, no stereo, no sound deadening, no power windows or seats, fuel cell, no color options (same as the Cobra R's).
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:06 pm to Clames
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Nice try but you failed since you obviously have a problem with reading comprehension.
Knew you'd come back with that weak arse excuse. So let me correct myself, you stated the 5.4 is superior to the entire LSx lineup.
Everything you've said is 100% your opinion. If it's all "fact" as you state, please provide links stating so. The real fact is that when you go to the 1/4 mile strip, hardly anyone runs a 5.4 based motor; and you know that is true as well. I am sure that isn't just a complete coincidence. And FWIW, if you're talking NHRA Pro Mod, the fastest Pro-Mod in the GM vs. Ford category finished 5th overall in points behind 4 Camaros last year...
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As for the rest you can shove it hard right along side your buddy who's taking it up the can on a $2000 quote for a repair he could do himself for $400 even with a screw-up like you helping...
Glad I've got you so mad that you've resorted to name calling. But anyway, the guy I talked to is more than handy and normally does everything he can himself, including building the big block in his Baja and restoring a late 60's Mustang. He's not a dumbass. And even if he could do it himself that's completely besides the point...it should have never been an issue in the first place. That's the point. It was a huge design flaw and you refuse to admit it - why? I don't know...maybe your a fanboy? Oh, nevermind, forgot how open you minded you are toward all other manufacturers.
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Continues to this day? You not aware that style of plug nor engine is in production anymore? 2005 was almost a decade ago in case you haven't looked at a calendar recently. Go look at the plugs in a 5.0 or 6.2 and see if they look like the 3V 5.4L plugs. Go find a bench Forest...maybe you'll find your pushrod Toyota 5.7L
And I'm the one with bad reading comprehension? I said it continues to this day because I had just talked to a guy with 2005. He bought the truck used maybe a year or two ago. So that means, see if you can grasp this mind blowing fact, there are early model 5.4 F150's out there that have not had the original plugs changed! Therefore, it is still someones issue...today...in 2014! Whoa! Crazy, right!?
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:36 pm to jordan21210
The special ones just keep coming back it seems.
As far as engine block architecture, yes it is superior and GM and Dodge adopted some of techniques used to make those blocks as strong as they are (extending the block skirt, cross bolting the mains). Only thing Dodge contributed in that time was cab-forward design and nobody who likes working on engines thanks them for that. No opinion, just a plain fact that GM has to make a specialty engine block to get into the 2000hp category Ford guys have been doing with mass production blocks.
I wasn't and pro-mod isn't just a NHRA category. Fastest Mod motor is 6.04@246.89. Fastest LSx is a 6.31@224. Both twin-turbo cars. Again, no opinion, fact.
Your buddy isn't that handy if he can't fix the problem. I fixed one in a college parking lot with basic hand tools and the kit I mentioned. I never said it wasn't a flaw, I was making a point that the issue was in fact addressed and you somehow failed (and keep failing) to figure that out. Do we need to bring up flaws GM should have never had like the infamous piston slap, AFM, dropped lifters, etc? No, but you seem obsessed over this particular sparkplug issue.
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So let me correct myself, you stated the 5.4 is superior to the entire LSx lineup.
As far as engine block architecture, yes it is superior and GM and Dodge adopted some of techniques used to make those blocks as strong as they are (extending the block skirt, cross bolting the mains). Only thing Dodge contributed in that time was cab-forward design and nobody who likes working on engines thanks them for that. No opinion, just a plain fact that GM has to make a specialty engine block to get into the 2000hp category Ford guys have been doing with mass production blocks.
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And FWIW, if you're talking NHRA Pro Mod
I wasn't and pro-mod isn't just a NHRA category. Fastest Mod motor is 6.04@246.89. Fastest LSx is a 6.31@224. Both twin-turbo cars. Again, no opinion, fact.
Your buddy isn't that handy if he can't fix the problem. I fixed one in a college parking lot with basic hand tools and the kit I mentioned. I never said it wasn't a flaw, I was making a point that the issue was in fact addressed and you somehow failed (and keep failing) to figure that out. Do we need to bring up flaws GM should have never had like the infamous piston slap, AFM, dropped lifters, etc? No, but you seem obsessed over this particular sparkplug issue.
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