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re: America (Dinesh DSouza) has a 0% from top critics on RT
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:53 pm to Jay Quest
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:53 pm to Jay Quest
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But that assumes everyone seeing the film is given to mindless partisanship. I don't believe that to be the case here. D'Souza's assertions aren't being attacked or debunked by the left. All attacks are directed at the man himself.
you really think the majority of the people seeing this movie are NOT politically motivated in their reasons for doing so?
really?
and like Geaux Tiger said, I've seen him in enough interviews to know he goes off the rails w/Obama derangement syndrome so I won't be spending money to hear his crackpot theories in a theater.
same as how I dismiss spin doctor asshats like Sean Hannity and Ed Shultz.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:58 pm
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:56 pm to Pilot Tiger
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seriously, if you think Michael Moore is a hack, then you should think DSouza is
Michael Moore and D'Souza are documentarians. I don't know where this idea of "fair and balanced" documentaries came from, but a true documentary is biased toward a singular viewpoint. My dislike for Moore stems completely from his speech at the Oscars eleven years ago.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:57 pm to Dr RC
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you really think the majority of the people seeing this movie are NOT politically motivated in their reasons for doing so?
What are you arguing here? That people will only go see movies they agree with politically, and vice versa? Is that really a shock to anyone?
I avoided watching that piece of shite Avatar until about a year after it came on HBO. And for good reason. I avoid Sean Penn movies because he is a liberal douche. I avoid michael moore movies for the same. I also avoid movies like brokeback mountain, or movies about Sandra Bullock in space. Why? Because i know what i like to watch and that isn't it.
So again, please tell me the gotcha you think you have going on there? The exact same reason people watched Al Gore's movie, or Michael Moore's movies, are the same reason people will watch this movie. Because it's something they are interested in and may or may not agree with politically. The same with any other genre.
I'm still waiting to know if you've ever watched any of D'Souza's political documentaries.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:58 pm to Dr RC
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you really think the majority of the people seeing this movie are NOT politically motivated in their reasons for doing so?
I'm not assuming to know why anyone sees a movie. I've talked to people who are supporting the film simply because the IRS is attacking the filmmaker. Politics aside they want to support someone being crushed by government.
There are even liberals among us who feel this is wrong.
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really?
Yea, really
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:59 pm to Dr RC
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I've seen him in enough interviews to know he goes off the rails w/Obama derangement syndrome so I won't be spending money to hear his crackpot theories in a theater.
Such as? I'd like to see these interviews. Again, watch 2016. It's basically Obama's book on video. Yet it's "derangement" to point things that Obama has actually stated?
That type of thinking proves you are a Sotero fanboy.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:06 pm to BugAC
Is this really that complicated to get? Am I just saying it in a confusing manner?
Again, the reason it has a high audience score is b/c the audience seeing it already agrees with the point of the movie.
DD is targeting a specific segment of people and giving them exactly what they want to hear. The majority of people seeing his film are fans of his political views and are extremely likely to give the film good marks simply b/c of its content.
This is no different than a movie like Grown Ups getting 10% on RT from critics why audiences gave it a 64%.
Your built in audience is always going to be more forgiving with their reviews.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:09 pm to Jay Quest
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I'm not assuming to know why anyone sees a movie. I've talked to people who are supporting the film simply because the IRS is attacking the filmmaker. Politics aside they want to support someone being crushed by government.
umm...
So you've talked to people who want to see a movie b/c they are pissed at the IRS?
Gee. They aren't biased going into it at all.
I mean... Kevin Smith says the new Star Wars and Batman stuff is awesome. I'm sure his comic book fandom or friendship with Ben Affleck has NOTHING to do with it.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:11 pm to BugAC
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Such as? I'd like to see these interviews. Again, watch 2016. It's basically Obama's book on video. Yet it's "derangement" to point things that Obama has actually stated?
That type of thinking proves you are a Sotero fanboy.
yes
not irrationally hating Obama just like how I didn't irrationally hate Bush means I'm a fanboy.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:13 pm to Dr RC
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So you've talked to people who want to see a movie b/c they are pissed at the IRS?
Yes. One who posted in this thread is going for that very reason.
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Gee. They aren't biased going into it at all.
Biased at what? Political abuse? That kind of bias should be prevalent among all political leanings.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:13 pm to Dr RC
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DD is targeting a specific segment of people and giving them exactly what they want to hear. The majority of people seeing his film are fans of his political views and are extremely likely to give the film good marks simply b/c of its content.
This is no different than a movie like Grown Ups getting 10% on RT from critics why audiences gave it a 64%.
Correct. This can be seen anytime a wildly religious movie hits the theaters that is clearly a shitty movie with bad actors BUT hits all the right notes for the target audience. You'll always see this type of disparity.
The problem for those on the right, and I do feel for them here, is that you hardly ever see this kind of gap when a liberal hit piece comes out. The reason is obvious...there are far more liberal members of both the press and entertainment industry so their built in bias leads them to being open to having something positive o say about the work. Audience goers will likely be liberals who will also laud the work, and the most vocal critics will be conservatives for whom the movie was never really meant. In those cases, there may be a gap but it'll be close...not wide like Dinesh's crap will have.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:16 pm to Jay Quest
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Yes. One who posted in this thread is going for that very reason.
Well if this is the case then people have no leg to stand on giving shite to those that want to go see the latest Adam Sandler movie, fighting robot film, or a film with fighting turtles that have noses.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:22 pm to Tactical1
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those that want to go see the latest Adam Sandler movie, fighting robot film, or a film with fighting turtles that have noses.
Everyone should be free to see a film for whatever reason they chose. I don't assume every Adam Sandler or every Michael Bay film watcher is a mindless droid. If they like what's being produced who am I to judge?
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:23 pm to Dr RC
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not irrationally hating Obama
What is irrational about disliking Obama?
1) NSA wiretaps
2) Using the IRS to punish political enemies just like Nixon.
3) No answers to Benghazi
4) The failure of Obamacare
5) The economy
6) The current mass influx of illegal immigrants directly due to the Admins stance on amnesty.
7) The resulting disease epidemic and increased cartel killing along the boarder because of #6.
8) Net Neutrality and Obama's lobbyist appointees.
9) Obama's foreign policy.
10) Obama admins handling of the VA.
11) Fast and Furious
12) Obama's green energy car bailouts
let me know if any of those are irrational.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:26 pm to Jay Quest
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Biased at what? Political abuse? That kind of bias should be prevalent among all political leanings.
Look, I dont want to get into a political debate in this forum. That isnt why I come here.
again
If a person goes into a movie already believing the message given they are more likely to like it.
Again, I don't see why this is so hard to accept.
I gave you a reason for the score discrepancy. (that by the way is wrong in the OP as it does not have a 0% from critics on RT)) Sorry you cant deal with it.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:29 pm to BugAC
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What is irrational about disliking Obama?
1) NSA wiretaps
2) Using the IRS to punish political enemies just like Nixon.
3) No answers to Benghazi
4) The failure of Obamacare
5) The economy
6) The current mass influx of illegal immigrants directly due to the Admins stance on amnesty.
7) The resulting disease epidemic and increased cartel killing along the boarder because of #6.
8) Net Neutrality and Obama's lobbyist appointees.
let me know if any of those are irrational.
again, not getting into political debate on this forum. that isnt what its for.
all I'll say is yea, a lot of that is irrationally ginned up junk and you need to stop getting caught up in political theater.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:30 pm to Dr RC
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Sorry you cant deal with it.
Deal with what? Your assumptions? You assume to know the political leanings of everyone who has seen this film and you want me to take that analysis seriously. Sorry, I can't
I've seen Michael Moore films and I don't agree with much he has to say. But I went to see what he would produce.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:31 pm to BugAC
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BugAC
You seem to have confused this with the Poli board.
Settle Down Francis.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:35 pm to Jay Quest
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Deal with what? Your assumptions? You assume to know the political leanings of everyone who has seen this film and you want me to take that analysis seriously. Sorry, I can't
I don't see how you can think that people seeing a flick like this aren't motivated to do so due to their own politics. It's not some heavily advertised nationwide release that everyone knows about. It has a specific target audience just like how a movie like God Is Not Dead does.
Are you really saying most of the people that saw a movie like God Is Not Dead were not motivated to do so by their religiosity?
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I've seen Michael Moore films and I don't agree with much he has to say. But I went to see what he would produce.
you realize you would be in the minority with that dont you?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:37 pm to Dr RC
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a lot of that is irrationally ginned up junk
It's not ginned up if it's fact.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:40 pm to RidiculousHype
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Wasn't most of his last movie Obama's own voice reading Obama's own book?
Yes. And interviews with Obama's own family.
If anything the first half of Obama 2016 was very sympathetic toward Obama. Then Obama's own words are used to continually torch him.
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