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re: NBA Draft Rumors 2014

Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Define "overpaid".


Well they did say they went in increments of $1 million, so I'm assuming full max and they'd rather an acceptable trade. How far under full max their threshold is, is a guessing game. I saw comments about SVGs statements from a sports writer that thought it was significant he used the word "value" multiple times when talking about Monroe and that it might indicate him being viewed as an asset and SVG thinking trade.

quote:

Also, if Monroe signs that offer sheet, Detroit's not trading shite.


He doesn't have to sign it immediately for you to make him your offer. It was widely known that we offered Tyreke 4/$44 and we still worked out a trade.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61512 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 29m

Cleveland pushed on deal centered on No. 1 pick for Kevin Love, but his refusal to re-sign w/ Cavs has killed talks, sources tell Yahoo.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:29 pm to
It's an interesting calculus for him.

I'm not entirely convinced Monroe/Drummond can work, but Monroe is a better player than Smith. Same time, Smith is better than he showed last year and makes more sense to me as a Marion type 4 next to Drummond and Monroe will get them a better return in a trade. They have plenty of cap space going forward, so they won't be capped out even if they keep all three for the time being.

If they don't want to pay Monroe above a certain level (which is weird because clean cap sheet), they have to wait if they want to move Smith. Worst case for them is dumping Smith for peanuts, then watching one a-hole gm sign him to a max offer sheet.

If they believe in Monroe/Drummond then none of this matters at all.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:35 pm to
I don't feel comfortably paying Monroe 13+ a year, which is what it would take.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:59 pm to
I'm with you.

It feels like Monty wants Twin Towers and I think he has the ear of management. If that's what they really want and believe in, it wouldn't kill me to see them overpay for Monroe. Not my preference though.

Phoenix seems like a good bet for Monroe. Tons of cap space, tons of assets, a bit of a hole in the middle. Dragic, Bledsoe, Monroe with all that shooting is an interesting team.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40926 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 2:09 pm to
Hometown discount. 14 mil per.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:20 pm to
Well something is actually happening:

Tyson Chandler and Ray Felton to Dallas. Not sure what the Mavs are sending back, if anything.
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:24 pm to
Dalembert/Calderon?
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Dharma Initiative
Fox River State Penitentiary
Member since Feb 2013
139 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:25 pm to
Them 2 + Larkin and Ellington.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115906 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:26 pm to
and Shane Larkin.
Posted by iAmThatMan
Member since Jan 2014
1879 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

and Shane Larkin.

Always did like him since he was at Miami.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61512 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:17 pm to
I'm surprised the Knicks are looking to pick up long term salary. I thought for sure they'd have tried to retain cap space for 2015. Dare I dream Eric Gordon for Amare?
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Dalembert/Calderon?


Calderon is a much safer bet than felton due to him being possibly in the pokey. He's still effective.

Dalembert is a downgrade but he's servicable
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:25 pm to
I'd be all for that. Amare is still a solid backup big. Looks like we'd have to include another $3m or so, but it would allow us to let Smith walk and focus on a SF with the MLE. Maybe use it to overpay a guy to sign a one year deal and have quite a bit of cap space next season.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:37 pm to
Ain't he making like 23 mil?

Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:40 pm to
Yeah, and sending out up to $19.6m, you can take back outgoing salary + $5m, so we'd need to send out a bit over $18m (Gordon is making a shade under $15m).
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:42 pm to
Ah ok

That works for me then
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61512 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

If LeBron and Melo end up in Houston, James Harden could end up on the Knicks, ESPN’s Chris Broussard reports in his Insider piece on LeBron’s preferred destinations.

Here’s how it would work:

Houston is one of the five teams on LeBron’s list of preferred destinations.

If the Rockets cleared enough cap space to sign James by trading Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik, they would then try to execute a sign-and-trade with the Knicks for Anthony. Broussard reports that Harden would be a part of such a transaction. And the Knicks would be open to accepting Harden.

Writes Broussard:

"A lot has been made about the possibility of James teaming up with Anthony, and few teams in the league have a better chance of pulling that off than Houston.

LINK

I don't want LeBron in the division, he might actually get Melo and Dwight to live up to their potential.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:06 pm to


After all the leaks and bullshite from Broussard leaked from the CP3 camp, I'm not buying this.

It's LeBron wish-casting that the Rockets dump Harden for Melo, NOT the Rockets showing an interest in doing so.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:06 pm to
I still don't think he goes to the west tbh
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