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re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews

Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:36 am to
Posted by LSUnFL
Orlando, FL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:36 am to
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Full time with a family here also. ISDS 705 seemed like I took a semester off however I have Do you have a Business background, stats, etc? If so ECON (SHAUG)/FNAN (VINES) are not to bad. If you want to start off slow then 705. I dropped 702 because I could not dedicate the time I needed to it.


SATNIGHTS, I've also not been in school for nearly 20 years. And this is my first online class. I am a controller for an insurance trust. So, accounting is my wheelhouse.

Who did you have for ISDS705? I signed up for in this current term but dropped it after opening a 35 page group project manual...I just couldn't.

If it felt like you took the semester off, do you wish you would have paired it with another class?

Thank you and good luck to you on your journey to your MBA.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:47 am to


I have been out of school 20 years also. Let me go back and check my past classes. If I recall I took 705 with Lin and I 100% felt like I should have doubled up. With that being said I have heard it has changed.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:18 am
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:48 am to
I am taking Acct 701 with Ambrosio AP1. Since you are a Controller it may be a good one to get your feet wet. I took Mrkt 701 with James first. Big mistake.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:01 am
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:52 am to
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There's a lot of writing, but it doesn't feel directly tied to the material and it is mostly concentrated in the middle weeks. The class itself is very poorly paced, so expect weeks 3, 4, and 5 to be at least 2-3 times the work of the other weeks. When I took it, there were 2 discussion forums and one reply also every week, 1 discussion forum and reply on weeks 3, 4, and 5 where you will also have case analyses due. Tests on weeks 3, 5, and 7 on a relatively large amount of material.

I did well in the class. I believe I made a good choice only because the alternatives actually appear to be worse(ie James). From what I've read in these forums, there does not appear to be a "good" choice for MKT 701. Don't hope to get the cream of the crop, the best you can hope for is the cream of the crap.


James' MKT 701 sounds better in the sense that the assignment work relates very strongly to the material. Similarly to what you described for Darrat, The class is very poorly paced, due to "The Project" that James is now extremely well known for, adding double to triple the time you would spend on any other course over weeks 3-7. Add on four "discussion forum" assignments (which are as much work as many courses' final projects), reading, and a weekly exam on top of "The Project."

There is really no way around it: in its current state, MKT 701 is hands down the most time-consuming, work-intensive course in the program. You will spend 40 hours a week minimum on this course, regardless of instructor. Do not pair it with another course if you have a work and family life. If you absolutely need to pair it with another course, pair it with Lin's ISDS 705, or quit your job for 7 weeks and pair it with ACCT 701 or maybe ISDS 702 (that's not a joke, it's what I did). Do not take it over a period of time where you will need to take vacation time since there is no break.

I would recommend James simply because I feel like I learned a lot from her and she is very engaged in the course.

If they change the crazy amount of work involved, maybe the recommendations would be different, but this is the current state.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2240 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:53 am to
Ditto on James. I spent 20-30 hours a week.
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:55 am to
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I took Mrkt 701 with James first. Big mistake.


Yikes, that's a rough introduction to the LSUS MBA program. I contemplating quitting after MKT 701, which was my third course after grinding out ECON 705 and HCAD 750. MKT 701 is no joke, but the upside is that after finishing it and MADM 760 it's all downhill.
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:01 am to
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Major companies don't seem to use R much (every company I've ever heard of uses SAS officially), but some hardcore analysts actually do (I checked with a few real analysts today and many of them seem to use it, even when they have access to SAS).


R seems like a good tool, it's mostly used in academia. The corporate world gravitates toward Python (which I have a lot of experience with for software development and I'll learn for Data Analytics once this term is over). Scalability aside, Python can be used for pretty much anything a corporation needs, and it's made large inroads in the AI and machine learning spaces.

I do wish they had chosen Python over R for ISDS 710, but it still sounds better than how the course was previously structured.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2240 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:02 am to
Yeah there were many what did I get myself into nights....
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:04 am to
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Like what was said before, hes great professor and lenient grader. We just have to put in the work and think critically.


Agreed, so far.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:07 am to
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Consensus on Heller for MADM 760? I searched in the thread and could not find anything definitive. Better to try and hold out for Meeks?


I don't have experience with Heller, but being three weeks into MADM 760 with Meeks I can say that A) The workload is on par with James' MKT 701 so far due to the group project work and B) He's a really great instructor, much like James. Expect a course with Meeks to be a massive grind but very educational.

There are a few here that are in week 3 of MADM 760 with McLaughlin, which does not have a group component and seems to be a more manageable workload.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:08 am
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:08 am to
Baroq- I think I am going to email my advisor and see if we can Audit it for free. (710)
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2240 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:08 am to
Thanks GEAUX!
Posted by LSUnFL
Orlando, FL
Member since Oct 2007
58 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:11 am to
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There is really no way around it: in its current state, MKT 701 is hands down the most time-consuming, work-intensive course in the program. You will spend 40 hours a week minimum on this course, regardless of instructor. Do not pair it with another course if you have a work and family life. If you absolutely need to pair it with another course, pair it with Lin's ISDS 705, or quit your job for 7 weeks and pair it with ACCT 701 or maybe ISDS 702 (that's not a joke, it's what I did). Do not take it over a period of time where you will need to take vacation time since there is no break.


Thank you for that insight. I really need to keep a notebook on all the class recommendations. I wish you could drill down on this board by class. :-)
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:13 am to
LSUinFL:

If you're only taking one class per term, and you're in the Data Analytics concentration (since you're taking HCAD 750), I'd recommend taking ISDS 702 with Koksal next. Koksal rocks, I don't believe it's offered regularly, the content should be a prerequisite for ECON 750, and the workload is very manageable.

I don't know much about Choi, but I can tell you that Vines is one of the best in the program.

ISDS 705 with Lin you may want to take paired up with another class since it is hands down the lightest workload in the program. Maybe even take it combined with ISDS 702 if you are planning on taking MKT 701, MADM 760, MADM 701, and ECON 750 as solo courses.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:26 am to
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This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by LSUnFL
Orlando, FL
Member since Oct 2007
58 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:30 am to
GeauxUF:

Ok, you recommend taking ISDS 702 with Koksal and ISDS 705 with Lin together. I'm fearful of two classes; but, I also don't want to waste time...ie, one class so easy I could have taken two.

Thank you!
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:41 am to
Geaux,

He's just running off the textbook with nothing extra from him aside from the "Final Project". I'm really thankful that there are at least the class and QA forums and he is pretty active in these. Otherwise, this class could very well be a much more intensive and difficult version of Lin's ISDS 705. The coursework is totally autopilot, but at least he's sitting in the cockpit. Lin wasn't even on the plane.


Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:44 am to
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Ok, you recommend taking ISDS 702 with Koksal and ISDS 705 with Lin together. I'm fearful of two classes; but, I also don't want to waste time...ie, one class so easy I could have taken two.



I took both of these together immediately after grinding through a term of MKT 701 and ACCT 701. It seriously felt like a deep 7-week breath! The workload of Lin's ISDS 705 and Koksal's ISDS 702 combined seemed less than MKT 701 was by itself.

The big caveat here is if you decide you want to pair something up with a bigger class down the line. I generally recommend saving Lin's ISDS 705 with one of the heavy hitters (MKT 701, MADM 701, MADM 760) if you begin doubling classes up since the workload is so light.
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:45 am to
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Baroq- I think I am going to email my advisor and see if we can Audit it for free. (710)


SATNIGHTS, good luck if they allow it, but even if they don't you literally do not need to. Go to Data Camp, sign up. There are 9 free modules. The class is basically going over these 9 free modules and not too much more.

Go through the modules, download R, R Studio, and the Swirl package and do the Swirl tutorials along with the Data Camp.

Boom... You'll learn everything the class is covering and MORE, since we don't even cover every module in its entirety and Swirl is supplemental.
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:47 am to
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Lin wasn't even on the plane.


I'm still not convinced he actually exists.

quote:

He's just running off the textbook with nothing extra from him aside from the "Final Project".


Speaking of which, do we have information on this project yet? I'd love to get a head start on it.
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