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Better for USA to finish 1st or 2nd in our group?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:01 pm
By finishing 1st we would most likely play Russia or Korea, then play France, then play Brasil/Chile/Netherlands
Whereas finishing 2nd we would most likely play Belgium, then Argentina, then Chile/Netherlands
Sure you always want to win your group and the 2nd option looks more tough at first glance due to playing Belgium first instead of Korea/Russia, but Argentina has looked vulnerable and not that strong whereas France has looked great and seems the tougher out. So the only difference really is Belgium + Argentina or Korea/Russia + France. The jury is still out on Belgium as well.
I'd rather win the group, so I guess this isn't really a question just playing devils advocate. Might be a silly thread
Whereas finishing 2nd we would most likely play Belgium, then Argentina, then Chile/Netherlands
Sure you always want to win your group and the 2nd option looks more tough at first glance due to playing Belgium first instead of Korea/Russia, but Argentina has looked vulnerable and not that strong whereas France has looked great and seems the tougher out. So the only difference really is Belgium + Argentina or Korea/Russia + France. The jury is still out on Belgium as well.
I'd rather win the group, so I guess this isn't really a question just playing devils advocate. Might be a silly thread
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:02 pm to ATLienTiger
A 1st place finish is far more of an advantage looking at it that way.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:04 pm to ATLienTiger
"2nd place is the first loser" - Ricky Bobby's daddy.
Or was it "if you're not first you're last"?
Or was it "if you're not first you're last"?
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:04 pm to ATLienTiger
I want us to play Russia!
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:17 pm to ATLienTiger
Win the group, beat probably Russia or maybe South Korea, and then I attend the quarterfinals.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:18 pm to ATLienTiger
Now that Ghana has got a draw against Germany after losing to us our group can go back to being the Group Of Death.
I was worried for a minute.
I was worried for a minute.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:58 pm to ATLienTiger
Beat Portugal.
Then first. I want our team to win as many games as possible against as good of competition as possible. Finishing first meant we went undefeated in the group of death(with at least 2 wins). That would seem to be a pretty big jump for US soccer. Can only back in so far in a competition like this . Hell I'd rather us go toe to toe with a motivated Germany team and lose by a goal then back into the round of 16 and lose by multiple goals in that round if you told me now those were my hypothetical choices. Until you can look the big boys in the eye and go right at them I don't truly see any benefit to backing in for one extra game(I know that's not what the OP is saying). I just want to see us win as many games against great competition as we are capable of and keep moving forward on the world stage.
Then first. I want our team to win as many games as possible against as good of competition as possible. Finishing first meant we went undefeated in the group of death(with at least 2 wins). That would seem to be a pretty big jump for US soccer. Can only back in so far in a competition like this . Hell I'd rather us go toe to toe with a motivated Germany team and lose by a goal then back into the round of 16 and lose by multiple goals in that round if you told me now those were my hypothetical choices. Until you can look the big boys in the eye and go right at them I don't truly see any benefit to backing in for one extra game(I know that's not what the OP is saying). I just want to see us win as many games against great competition as we are capable of and keep moving forward on the world stage.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 9:46 pm to ATLienTiger
We would more than likely face Belgium ( imho ) if we finished 2nd and then France.
Argentina is nor exactly in fire, but I would still rather face France in Brazil than Argentina in the quarter finals.
The next round will be South Korea, Belgium or Russia, no matter how they finish all are beatable.
And all could beat us.
Argentina is nor exactly in fire, but I would still rather face France in Brazil than Argentina in the quarter finals.
The next round will be South Korea, Belgium or Russia, no matter how they finish all are beatable.
And all could beat us.
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