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Better for USA to finish 1st or 2nd in our group?

Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:01 pm
By finishing 1st we would most likely play Russia or Korea, then play France, then play Brasil/Chile/Netherlands

Whereas finishing 2nd we would most likely play Belgium, then Argentina, then Chile/Netherlands

Sure you always want to win your group and the 2nd option looks more tough at first glance due to playing Belgium first instead of Korea/Russia, but Argentina has looked vulnerable and not that strong whereas France has looked great and seems the tougher out. So the only difference really is Belgium + Argentina or Korea/Russia + France. The jury is still out on Belgium as well.

I'd rather win the group, so I guess this isn't really a question just playing devils advocate. Might be a silly thread
Posted by AirRaidTT
Grapevine, TX
Member since May 2008
2683 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:02 pm to
A 1st place finish is far more of an advantage looking at it that way.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
"2nd place is the first loser" - Ricky Bobby's daddy.

Or was it "if you're not first you're last"?
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
I want us to play Russia!
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
31085 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:17 pm to
Win the group, beat probably Russia or maybe South Korea, and then I attend the quarterfinals.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:18 pm to
Now that Ghana has got a draw against Germany after losing to us our group can go back to being the Group Of Death.

I was worried for a minute.


Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64490 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 4:58 pm to
Beat Portugal.

Then first. I want our team to win as many games as possible against as good of competition as possible. Finishing first meant we went undefeated in the group of death(with at least 2 wins). That would seem to be a pretty big jump for US soccer. Can only back in so far in a competition like this . Hell I'd rather us go toe to toe with a motivated Germany team and lose by a goal then back into the round of 16 and lose by multiple goals in that round if you told me now those were my hypothetical choices. Until you can look the big boys in the eye and go right at them I don't truly see any benefit to backing in for one extra game(I know that's not what the OP is saying). I just want to see us win as many games against great competition as we are capable of and keep moving forward on the world stage.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 9:46 pm to
We would more than likely face Belgium ( imho ) if we finished 2nd and then France.

Argentina is nor exactly in fire, but I would still rather face France in Brazil than Argentina in the quarter finals.

The next round will be South Korea, Belgium or Russia, no matter how they finish all are beatable.

And all could beat us.
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