re: ***Official Big Brother 16 Season Long SPOILERS Thread***

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Then Frankie talked miles around him, and he's back to thinking he's the dude in charge.

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Before the season started and the cast photos were released, I was pretty positive I would not like Frankie, but I could not have been more wrong! That dude is one hell of a game player!

Same with Derrick. Judging by the two cops they had on Survivor last season, although Tony grew on me, I never thought I would have liked him. Same case, the dude flat out knows the game and gets it.

I will be shocked if those two do not end up in the finals. At least final 4 or so, seeing as how they all seem to have final two deals with different people.

And see, I don't think Christine is as well positioned as you think necessarily. Zach truly does want her out, and I feel like Frankie/Derrick would be all on board as well. Also, if Donny were to win HOH, she's going up (and probably next to Cody so I could see her getting out that way). Need BOB to end this week so we can get some more interesting players on the block.

I feel like Christine has tried to play the Andy game from last year, but there's really not two sides to bounce between like there were with Amanda and Helen last season. Hayden/Nicole have deals with both Frankie and with Derrick/Cody so I'm not sure if Christine's presence is actually a necessity to them either. My judgment may be clouded because I have an irrational dislike of Christine.

It's just odd. I have a hard time wrapping my head around where this season is headed. I'm looking forward to the in-fighting amongst the remaining Bomb Squad, and I'm not sure how Donny/Jocasta/Hayden/Nicole will play into it (I'm assuming Vic sticks with Derrick).

It does seem like Frankie and Derrick are a cut above the other house guests at the moment (I'd say Hayden is up there too but think Frankie and Derrick know he's a threat to win and will try to get him out sooner rather than later). Donny has a good understanding of the house dynamics but seemingly no means of rallying support. Team America will, however, likely keep him in the house longer so opportunities may arise for him to gain some numbers (you'd think Beast Mode would realize what is going on and at least attempt to align with Donny, though Donny doesn't much care for Caleb).

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If Christine would flip to them and open their eyes to the detonators, they would be a formidable force.

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Except I think Christine is kind of screwed because that'd be the second time she is caught lying by Nicole. Maybe I'm giving Nicole too much credit, but I think she is sharp (and only plays the victim card) so any sort of reveal by Christine would mean the end to an alliance with Nicole.

As to Donny, I think he legit doesn't like Christine and feel that's his biggest impediment towards working with someone.

I think Hayden - in theory - could be the galvanizing force towards starting something bigger, but I'm not sure he feels like he needs to do it because he's in with all the guys on the other side.

I think that Hayden, Derrick and Cody will target Frankie as soon as they have Caleb out next week. Derrick and Hayden are really wary of him.

Vic is such an idiot

when is double eviction
usually they've had one by now

This gif should be posted on every page of this thread.

I've never seen a more delusional player. Even last night, he thought he was running the house. I do think if he can lose focus of Amber, he could be a very dangerous player. She has killed his game. That and the fact that he can't stop loving himself.

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Except I think Christine is kind of screwed because that'd be the second time she is caught lying by Nicole. Maybe I'm giving Nicole too much credit, but I think she is sharp (and only plays the victim card) so any sort of reveal by Christine would mean the end to an alliance with Nicole.

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Nicole is pretty dang naive as to what is actually going on in the house. Zach basically told her that she couldn't trust Christine, and Christine was able to talk her way out of it by deflecting it back to Zach being nuts. Donny tried to warn Nicole that she couldn't trust Christine back when Nicole was HoH before BoB. And what did Nicole do, she ran straight to Christine and told her (which is why Christine and Donny are at odds), and Nicole got pissed at Donny (granted Donny spilled the beans about Caleb throwing the BoB comp, which was really dumb on his part). Now she's had Zach hinting to her that Christine is in their alliance. If I was Nicole, I'd be doing some digging into what Christine is actually doing. She could get the info from Amber and Caleb if she played her cards right considering Frankie pressured her to lie to Amber. Heck, Nicole could probably get it out of Hayden is she really tried hard enough (I'm assuming that Hayden knows, but he may not).

And I think Hayden has been trying to work with Donny. I know that they were talking game in the backyard last night about the order of their targets. Hayden reassured Donny that he could get Christine to not go after Donny. We'll see if that is true or not (I doubt it since Christine really has it out for Donny). The best thing for them to do is convince Nicole to play the game with them, and kick Christine to the side of the road. But I don't think Nicole is that smart.