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re: Nonpartisan fact checking website

Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:52 pm to
Nonpartisan


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PolitiFact Ohio reporter Joe Guillen acknowledged that Republican spokeswoman Izzy Santa said something “literally true” — that incumbent Democrat U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown and his backers were spending $13 million in current the race.

Remarkably, he still declared the statement only Half True. Guillen achieved that rhetorical sleight-of-hand by determining on his own that Santa probably meant to discuss only money spent by groups outside Brown’s control — despite the fact that her terms explicitly referred to both spending by all groups and by Brown’s campaign. The combined total spending of Brown and his supporters was actually higher than $13 million. But if you pretend she didn’t include Brown, then you can pretend she said something wrong.
Posted by carbola
Bloomington, IN
Member since Aug 2010
4308 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:05 pm to
Didn't PoliFact say that Obama didn't lie when he said "You can keep your plan if you like it" because he meant if it followed the Obamacare outline are something ludicrous like that


ETA: I found it, and what I said above is incorrect. They listed it as "Pants on Fire"
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

PolitiFact Ohio reporter Joe Guillen acknowledged that Republican spokeswoman Izzy Santa said something “literally true” — that incumbent Democrat U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown and his backers were spending $13 million in current the race.

Remarkably, he still declared the statement only Half True. Guillen achieved that rhetorical sleight-of-hand by determining on his own that Santa probably meant to discuss only money spent by groups outside Brown’s control — despite the fact that her terms explicitly referred to both spending by all groups and by Brown’s campaign. The combined total spending of Brown and his supporters was actually higher than $13 million. But if you pretend she didn’t include Brown, then you can pretend she said something wrong.


Best thing to do with something like this is to not give it a truth rating. Just show the work--lay out how the person making the claim arrived at a particular conclusion, and let the reader decide if it's fair, spin, or bull.
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