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In college at a party a few guys came up to me and said a train was being run on a girl. She had drank too much and was passed out, but never in anyway deserved or wanted that to happen. I kept thinking that the voice of decency would prevail with the men involved, but it didn't. It bothers me to this day that I didn't go and stop it. There was no excuse for them to do what they did or for me for not intervene.

If she was passed out drunk then she should have filed charges. She may have put herself at risk by getting pass-out drunk at said party, but she didn't deserve to get the railroad.

The situations that are being talked about here (at least I think that's what is being discussed) are ones where a girl and a guy, both somewhat intoxicated, engage in coitus. Then the next day (or a year later LINK), they regret the consensual sex they had, and file charges of sexual assault and claim they were too intoxicated to consent. Who decides the limit of consumption? Was there a third party present at the time of their sexual congress to verify the victim's cognizance before the act occurred?

The burden of proof is too great to ruin someone's life based on one regretful person's account. And in a situation such as the one at Occidental, where the girl texted the guy asking if he had a condom before going back to his room to have sex...how do you maintain that sexual assault occurred? She willingly went to his room, with the purpose of having sex..with text messages as proof. Yet, the young man was still expelled.

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Posted by The Spleen

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Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:19 am to City

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The situations that are being talked about here (at least I think that's what is being discussed) are ones where a girl and a guy, both somewhat intoxicated, engage in coitus. Then the next day (or a year later LINK), they regret the consensual sex they had, and file charges of sexual assault and claim they were too intoxicated to consent. Who decides the limit of consumption? Was there a third party present at the time of their sexual congress to verify the victim's cognizance before the act occurred?

No doubt that occurs, but at the same time how many legitimate rapes occur that go unreported by the victim for fear of the backlash she will receive? Calling her a slut, saying she was drunk, saying she asked for it by going to a frat party or bar and drinking? It's a terrible crime for the victim, and it's a crime that is very difficult to prove in these particular situations, and they happen all the time on college campuses. Likewise, it's just as terrible for a male to be labeled a rapist when it was consensual, though drunken, sex.

I have no idea what "rape culture" means, but perhaps it relates to some of the callous statements made by a few in this thread. Not yours, mind you, but a few others.

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Posted by ForeLSU

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Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:30 am to City