It's funny that you don't believe hard data but choose to believe some random waitress with an enormous bias. Of course she wants you to believe she's some poor underpaid $7 a hour employee. And of course your dumb arse believes her.

Here's another link:

MinimumWage.org

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Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the Washington Minimum Wage of $9.32 per hour.

It doesn't say only full time workers. It doesn't say some workers that meet certain requirements. It says ALL tipped employees must earn $9.32 an hour. But hey- you believe what you want to believe why other posters shite logic turds all over you.

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Posted by ShortyRob

Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:43 pm to ClientNumber9

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You're getting owned in this thread. I live in Washington state as well and he's right.

I think Mikes point is simple.

Absent proof there is no reason to just accept some dude on the net's word over a woman being interviewed.

The proof was shown and it is what it is. But, that doesn't change that prior to the proof, the person on this board was no more credible than the waitress.

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Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo

Member since Apr 2013

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Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:14 pm to ClientNumber9

And it's not only full time workers. In fact, thanks to the new health care law, one very large national restaurant chain that my wife works for will only allow 20% of all workers (including salaried managers and people like her at the corporate level) to be full time. So basically any server you see is going to be part time.

And in WA those workers still have to be paid minimum wage prior to calculating any tips. But don't take my word for it...

I just want to know why I would criticize something for being factually incorrect if I did not know the law I was referring to? And the article was quoting a random blog post from a different site. You know, a blog. The thing also written by an anonymous internet poster...

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Posted by La Place Mike

West Florida Republic

Member since Jan 2004

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Posted on 5/31/14 at 3:23 pm to ClientNumber9

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You're getting owned in this thread.

Not at all. What's so hard to understand why someone just doesn't take some random poster on the internet at his word.

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I live in Washington state as well and he's right.

Whoo Hoo!

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It's funny that you don't believe hard data but choose to believe some random waitress with an enormous bias. Of course she wants you to believe she's some poor underpaid $7 a hour employee.

No hard data had been presented when I made the post that I didn't believe him. Why wouldn't I believe she didn't earn $7.00 and hour. Based on my experience of having worked in restaurants. In fact, based on my experience she was being paid more than all of the waitresses that I have known. So why wouldn't my dumb arse believe her?

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t doesn't say only full time workers. It doesn't say some workers that meet certain requirements. It says ALL tipped employees must earn $9.32 an hour. But hey- you believe what you want to believe why other posters shite logic turds all over you.

Why are you so mad? All of the evidence was posted after I said that that I chose not to take him at his word. I think I pretty much explained my reasoning why I believed her instead of him when I said.

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I was taking the waitress being interviewed for her word and going by the intimate knowledge that I have from waiting tables in the past. So, please forgive me. I expected the women to be intimately more knowledgeable about how much she earned than the estimable YipSkiddlyDoo.

LickSpittleDoo just can't let it go.

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Posted by foshizzle

Washington DC metro

Member since Mar 2008

40599 posts

Posted on 5/31/14 at 4:43 pm to ClientNumber9

Actually, according to your own link it is perfectly legal in Washington state to pay tipped employees below minimum wage - provided their tips make up the difference. To quote the part you missed:

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Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the Washington Minimum Wage of $9.32 per hour. If a Washington employee does not earn at least $9.32 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.

So yes, she could have been telling the truth when she said she was only getting $7/hr plus tips. It's completely legal there.

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Posted by carbola

Bloomington, IN

Member since Aug 2010

4308 posts

Posted on 5/31/14 at 5:36 pm to ClientNumber9

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It doesn't say only full time workers. It doesn't say some workers that meet certain requirements. It says ALL tipped employees must earn $9.32 an hour. But hey- you believe what you want to believe why other posters shite logic turds all over you.

I have a question about this. I know in LA all tipped workers must make at least minimum wage including tips. If minimum wage isn't reached via tips then the employer has to make up the difference. Do you know if it is the same in WA?

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