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re: Godson just got a Staffordshire Terrier puppy

Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:36 am to
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:36 am to
Don't listen to all of the fricking TD drama queens. They see a mean looking dog and "omg, omg, it's going to bite your face off".

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Staffordshire Bull Terriers are friendly, enthusiastic and usually extremely affectionate[19] towards humans.


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RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said: "Staffies have had a terrible press, but this is not of their own making - in fact they're wonderful dogs. If people think that Staffies have problems, they're looking at the wrong end of the dog lead! When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions. Our experience suggests that problems occur when bad owners exploit the Staffie's desire to please by training them to show aggression."[22]


As far as tips for getting a 4yr old to take responsibility, I got nothing.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:36 am to
He gave it to you for free? Wow. Staffy's are VERY expensive, usually 3k to 5k.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:38 am to


cute little staffy attack.
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:39 am to
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Great dog. I have an Amstaff and he is the best dog. He adores my son. My son is 2 1/2.


Would you recommend it to a new owner that hasn't raised a dog that sounds like they want to make the kid responsible for it though?

Unless they are going to put in the time and money it requires to not only train the dog right, but also train themselves to be responsible owners, they need to go with another breed.

This is how you get the bad owners of this breed responsible for the general public making the comments that are in this thread.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:42 am to
Owners need to be the alpha member no matter what the breed, but I do see your point. Staffy's are boisterous, as are Amstaffs. They take an experienced owner.
Posted by ATXTiger1
Austin
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:46 am to
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Would you recommend it to a new owner that hasn't raised a dog that sounds like they want to make the kid responsible for it though?

Unless they are going to put in the time and money it requires to not only train the dog right, but also train themselves to be responsible owners, they need to go with another breed.

This is how you get the bad owners of this breed responsible for the general public making the comments that are in this thread.


Solid, solid advice.
Posted by Chet_Steadman120
Metry
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:46 am to
Thanks Crimsonsaint, going to try and find Staffordshire or Terrier specific training books. My Godson hits off the tee by himself and throws the football and baseball across the front yard so I know the dog will be all over chasing his batted balls or playing catch. Maybe we will just let him bath the dog and refill her bowl and leave the walking to someone who can handle a 50 lbs animal with her own intentions.


That's gruesome, but instead of casting off the puppy who doesn't have teeth yet, how do we train her not to do that??? Any good books, websites, training classes in the NOLA area?
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 10:50 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:49 am to
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and baseball across the front yard so I know the dog will be all over chasing his batted balls or playing catch.


this is how neighborhood children gets their face eaten off.. pits roaming the front yard. Your ignorance is hard to read.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:51 am to
What this guy said....

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Don't listen to all of the fricking TD drama queens


Not this guy....

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same thing as a pitbull


I've spent a lot of time around Staffies in South Africa where they are most common. So, I will fancy myself a somewhat of an expert because I've actually spent weeks at a time with them living with them at their homes.

All of my friends there keep them as family pets. All are allowed indoors, and all pretty much are inside/outside dogs being given free run of the bush and back into the home.

The are very high energy, but some not so much.

They are sturdy as all get out- we ran over one(not an exaggeration) at 40 kph with a Ranger and it broke him all up- today he's good as new.

I have read that they will absolutely eat the neighboring pets, but the guys and girls I've been around all did really well with the other pets in the house. One of my friends has a Rott, Mini-Schnauzer, and two Staffies- and they all did fine.

In the end, they will defend the child that is their owner until no end- the South Africans like them for this. They are great family pets, but it's no Lab.

I would also comment that all of my SA friends are about 3x as brutal as any American I've ever known- even the ladies. So y'all may want to keep that in mind when disciplining the dog.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by Chet_Steadman120
Metry
Member since Jan 2014
293 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:53 am to
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this is how neighborhood children gets their face eaten off.. pits roaming the front yard. Your ignorance is hard to read.


Good thing there's a hundreds of miles long levee and three playgrounds, no where not going to let it off the leash around children, within five minutes of where we live. Go away
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:54 am to
you won't control all situations life brings you. ignorance away.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:54 am to
Let him scoop the food and fill the water bowl. Take it outside (theyre strong pups so he may be too young to walk it right now) pick up its crap, help bathe, etc

They are great dogs
Posted by ATXTiger1
Austin
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:55 am to
quote:

That's gruesome, but instead of casting off the puppy who doesn't have teeth yet, how do we train her not to do that???


Please stop talking. You really aren't helping the cause.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:57 am to
maybe you should get the 4 yr old a kitty kat too. i have a lynx rufus available for free.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15534 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:57 am to
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training classes in the NOLA area?


Do this, get the adult responsible for the dog taking these if they have no training in raising dogs correctly. Find a good place to take them as well, not a Petsmart.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:00 am to
Look man, I'm not on the side that thinks all pitt type dogs are the devil, but you certainly picked the wrong breed as a first time dog owner. Pitts require someone that can pick up on signals the dog is giving instantly and either reinforce them or nip them in the bud. You don't have those skills, and that's how dangerous dogs happen. It won't hurt YOUR godson, but it may go nuts on the first child who playfully hits him. It's really not worth the risk.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166500 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:01 am to
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It's really not worth the risk.


this guy thinks he can control all the risks, he can't, won't and will never be able to. Its only a matter of when...
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:06 am to
I just feel bad for the dog. In a year it's gonna be on craigslist and go to some hoodrat, dead, or in the pound.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166500 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:08 am to
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I just feel bad for the dog.


i could care less about the dog. I'd be worried about the safety of my child and legal responsibilities of actions of said dog at any time. There's zero reward for taking such risk with this dog vs a more calm breed that doesn't have an internal instinct to eat faces of kids.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6257 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:09 am to
Dogs are dogs. Sometime in their life something will startle or scare them. When that happens, there's a very good chance he/she will defend themselves with their teeth.

Nothing unusual or surprising about this, and should well be expected.

Weigh the risks, and make your decision.

Chance any dog will bite in their life? 80%?
Chance said dog will do major harm to an adult if he bites them? 10% dachound? 80% big dog?
Chance said dog will do major harm to a 4 year old? 20% or 90%?
Chance dog happens to bite the 4 year old, because neither understand each other very well? 60%?

.80 x .90 x .60 = 43%

Change the percentages to what YOU think they are.

I love my baby way too much to put her at a 10% risk of loss of face or worse.

Good luck with your decision.
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