re: Cam Cameron the main reason Malachi Dupre chose LSU.

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i realize cam is from the NFL. however, people keep talking about what cam did for the offense. i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era. i saw a lot of individual stats but i don't see how the offense scored that many more points than in previous years or won us any games with come from behind scoring (ie georgia). cam is a very good coach but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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Uh... The offense was responsible for at least the first 7 or 8 of our wins last season and was the only reason we were even close in the Georgia game. Couldn't come from behind in Georgia? Are you serious? Not only did we come from behind and answer the bell each time, but the reason we lost that game was because of our defense, which was too young and inexperienced to cope with a healthy Georgia offense. It was not until late in the season that personnel changes and coaching gelled our defense, particularly in the secondary, and we started to see play rising to the level that we have become accustomed to in the John Chavis era. And even then it was inconsistent.

Cam was given talent, but so was Stud. That same talent took the field on the offensive side of the ball in 2012 and we were one of the worst offenses in the country. Luckily our defense was unbelievable and bailed out the offense, much like it did in 2011.

Only when the talent of our offense and defense coincide will we win another championship, and with Cam at the helm of our offense, it has been shown that he can raise the level of play on that side of the ball. Period. Let's hope he can get through to Harris or Jennings (or shite, Rettig, I don't really care who plays QB), and we get some explosiveness from our skill positions. Because if I had to guess, our defense will once again be pretty damn good.

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i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era. i saw a lot of individual stats but i don't see how the offense scored that many more points than in previous years or won us any games with come from behind scoring (ie georgia). cam is a very good coach but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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You greatly underappreciate the talent that has been here in years past, Randle, Toliver, Trindon, Ridley, etc. Our offense covered a defense that was just bad at times. Without the offensive output last years season could have went completely the other direction.

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i realize cam is from the NFL. however, people keep talking about what cam did for the offense. i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era. i saw a lot of individual stats but i don't see how the offense scored that many more points than in previous years or won us any games with come from behind scoring (ie georgia). cam is a very good coach but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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i realize cam is from the NFL. however, people keep talking about what cam did for the offense. i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era

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Open your eyes. All of those players were on the team the previous year and had one of the worst offensive performances in LSU history... So were the players just improved or did the play calling and talent development improve immensely.

3000 yd passer
1500 yd rusher
2 ea 1000 yd receivers
find another offense with that level of performance.

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but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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Blame that on a decimated defense.

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i realize cam is from the NFL. however, people keep talking about what cam did for the offense. i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era. i saw a lot of individual stats but i don't see how the offense scored that many more points than in previous years or won us any games with come from behind scoring (ie georgia). cam is a very good coach but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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Well thank goodness our recruits don't share that view.

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i realize cam is from the NFL. however, people keep talking about what cam did for the offense. i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era. i saw a lot of individual stats but i don't see how the offense scored that many more points than in previous years or won us any games with come from behind scoring (ie georgia). cam is a very good coach but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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While many others have already proven this statement to be a little ridiculous, I will further it by providing you a little bit of stats.
If you compare the last 2 years of offense, here is how they stack up to each other:
2012 - 29.8 points around 4800 total yards and 242 first downs. We were also 40.21% on 3rd downs and 84.91% successful in the red zone.
2013 - 35.8 points per game, around 5600 total yards, 287 first downs, 57.14% 3rd down conversion rate and 83.93% success rate in the red zone.
As you can clearly see, in every single category except red zone rate, we were better than the year before with basically the same offense. If you can't see a difference, I don't know what to tell you. You brought up the Georgia game and the fact that we couldn't score late, however, you fail to remember that we actually scored with about 4 minutes left in the game to take the lead. We also tied the game against Ole Miss pretty late as well only to have our defense blow the game. The only game that was truly a team loss was the Alabama game.

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i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins

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All of those guys stud had in 2012 as well and Cam made them all better in 2013.

Not sure how you can blame the offense in any of our 3 losses. The defense absolutely blew chunks in all 3 of our 3 losses last season.

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i realize cam is from the NFL. however, people keep talking about what cam did for the offense. i don't see it. cam was handed hill, obj, mett, landry, turner, collins. thats the best group of offensive talent in the les miles era. i saw a lot of individual stats but i don't see how the offense scored that many more points than in previous years or won us any games with come from behind scoring (ie georgia). cam is a very good coach but i didn't see any impact on WINS last year.

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If you think the combo of Stud & Miles would have yielded similar results, prayers.

Either there were a bunch of dumbarses posting in this thread or just a couple of loud mouths who can't stop posting their foolishness. I will try to summarize why these people might be of lesser IQs...

First of all, LSU has the best staff in the nation and this will be proven over the next few years in the win column.

Yes, Cam is responsible for the exact type of turnaround in the ofense that we LSU fans have been shouting for since Lee and JJ started competing for a starting role.

Cam's practices are a major reason why the offense is going to stay very efficient relative to those of the recent past. The defense always practiced fast and intensely but the offense only started matching the defenses speed and aggression when Cam showed up.

Anyone who is mental enough to post that previous LSU teams didn't have the same level of talent than the 2013 squad are not worthy of joining the discussions at the grown up table until they take a three week course of how to truly watch a footbal game.

Cam would have never played JJ because JJ had no conception of timing routes and he always waited to throw he ball after his target was open because he was so scared of throwing ints. Lee might have been the man and he would have been leading the same guys but those guys would have also benefited from Cam's influence so games like Bama where he was picked would not have happened like that.

JJ was most likely a great practice QB when he knew what the defenses were doing but when an unfamiliar opponent showed up he woud get scared that he would misread coverages, etc which led to his being the worst passing QB in the history of mankind.

Finally, Cam > Any of Les' previous OC's with the only one in consideration being Jimbo. Any LSU fan who does not agree is on my shite list.