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BYU wants a Notre Dame-like exception as a quality non-conference game
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:36 am
@schadjoe: BYU AD Tom Holmoe said he plans to speak w Mike Slive about if his program meets the SEC's new scheduling requirements
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:38 am to GoldenFlakes
Jim McMahon gonna QB this season?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:38 am to GoldenFlakes
They are solid but hardly on ND's level.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:39 am to GoldenFlakes
Slive should say yes...but only if the game is on Sunday. 
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:56 am to GoldenFlakes
They are typically better than the shitty Big 12, ACC and B1G schools like Kansas, Indiana and Wake. I don't see why not
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:13 am to GoldenFlakes
They play Savannah State on senior day this season... so I would say yes they are having a hard time scheduling.
It's tough to schedule for them when the two nearest major conferences, the Pac12/Big12 play 9 game schedules. Then the WAC broke apart which ruined their 5 games a year deal with the WAC, and they do schedule MWC schools but only 4 per season. Utah won't play them anymore
So BYU has to fill a 12 game schedule, with one FCS team and 4 MWC teams. After that they have to fight for 7 more games.
It's tough to schedule for them when the two nearest major conferences, the Pac12/Big12 play 9 game schedules. Then the WAC broke apart which ruined their 5 games a year deal with the WAC, and they do schedule MWC schools but only 4 per season. Utah won't play them anymore
So BYU has to fill a 12 game schedule, with one FCS team and 4 MWC teams. After that they have to fight for 7 more games.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:29 am to GoldenFlakes
I really don't see a compelling reason to deny them the "ND Exception".
They're at least as good consistently as Wake, Duke, NCState, Indiana, Minnesota, Washington State, or Oregon State.
They're desperate so they'll agree to anything and not punk anyone by dropping out of a deal.
Because they're having such trouble putting together a schedule, they will end up with a winning record every year by virtue of playing crappy teams, so if you think you can beat them, it'll be a victory that will help, nit hurt your SOS.
As an aside, DAMN, Utah screwed them good! Wow!!! Just as BYU launched its network and independence, Utah, their biggest rival, went from the second-tier, where they'd been, to a BCS Power 5 conference!
They're at least as good consistently as Wake, Duke, NCState, Indiana, Minnesota, Washington State, or Oregon State.
They're desperate so they'll agree to anything and not punk anyone by dropping out of a deal.
Because they're having such trouble putting together a schedule, they will end up with a winning record every year by virtue of playing crappy teams, so if you think you can beat them, it'll be a victory that will help, nit hurt your SOS.
As an aside, DAMN, Utah screwed them good! Wow!!! Just as BYU launched its network and independence, Utah, their biggest rival, went from the second-tier, where they'd been, to a BCS Power 5 conference!
Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:42 am to GoldenFlakes
The basic principle has some fairly significant flaws, the primary one being that simply being in one of the major conferences doesn't automatically make a team a quality opponent, and not being in one doesn't automatically mean the team isn't. Notre Dame has been horrific some years, while Boise State would have beaten them like redheaded step-rechauns. There's really no easy fix except to have an annual vote on each and every team non-major conference team that applies to be considered "major" enough to be a quality OOC opponent, and then vote annually on whether they deserve to remain. That ensures that sufficient success over a time will be rewarded eventually, while failure to maintain success will be treated accordingly. But that's an ugly and political fix, so the essential problem remains.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 12:20 pm to GoldenFlakes
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BYU AD Tom Holmoe said he plans to speak w Mike Slive about if his program meets the SEC's new scheduling requirements
I would love to hear the conversation if the answer is no
Posted on 4/29/14 at 1:46 pm to GoldenFlakes
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Notre Dame-like exception
Notre Dame doesn't deserve the Notre Dame exception.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 4:35 pm to GoldenFlakes
If BYU was a Big 5 program, they would be in a Big 5 conference. It's not as if they turned down the Pac 12 to stay independent or something.
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