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re: Should sexual orientation be engineered in the womb?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:14 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:14 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Even given the tremendous risks it involves? Is it really worth it at that point? And what if the drugs end up not working and your gay son finds out one day what you tried to do?
Shitty parents.
Well no, not if there is tremendous health risks to the mother or child. I was assuming we were talking about a safe method.
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:20 am to gatorrocks
didn't know they were examining gay people brains enough to identify genetic predisposition for homosexuality. And if they did they wouldn't be looking for a "gay gene", it's sequence or mutations of normal genes. Do they look for "cancer" genes, no they look for specific mutations in "normal" genes
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:20 am to constant cough
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Well no, not if there is tremendous health risks to the mother or child. I was assuming we were talking about a safe method.
I understand that a big fear parents have is that their kid will get bullied or picked on for being different, or that later in life they won't get the same opportunities as everyone else. So for those reasons, I could understand a parent preferring a straight kid over a gay one.
I hope one day those issues aren't issues anymore though. It would be shame if a gay child one day found out his parents tried to turn him straight while in the womb.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:20 am to Zelig
On a related point, we already have 'elective abortions'. Let's say that mom and dad want a baby. But she gets pregnant with twins. They can't afford to raise 2 kids.
Parents: "Are they identical?"
Doc: "No, there is a boy and a girl."
Parents: "Kill the girl."
Parents: "Are they identical?"
Doc: "No, there is a boy and a girl."
Parents: "Kill the girl."
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:24 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Because there is no simple, single gay gene. To think there is or that one would be discovered is idiotically simplistic. Theres still no diabetes gene, or hypertension gene, or prostate cancer gene etc etc but still a huge familial component to all of these.
this will fly over the "choose to be gay" crowd Bc that's their crutch. As if there is an active movement anyways of doctors dissecting homo brains. Or even examining their brains on any significant level. Like somebody can "choose" who they're attracted to anyways lol
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:29 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Because there is no simple, single gay gene. To think there is or that one would be discovered is idiotically simplistic. Theres still no diabetes gene, or hypertension gene, or prostate cancer gene etc etc but still a huge familial component to all of these.
this will fly over the "choose to be gay" crowd Bc that's their crutch. As if there is an active movement anyways of doctors dissecting homo brains. Or even examining their brains on any significant level. Like somebody can "choose" who they're attracted to anyways lol
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:31 am to tiger in the gump
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Like somebody can "choose" who they're attracted to anyways lol
It's astounding that it's taken this long for most people to realize this lol
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:32 am to tiger in the gump
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Like somebody can "choose" who they're attracted to anyways lol
Of course you can choose who you are attracted to. If you couldn't then people would never fall out of love after the initial attraction.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:35 am to constant cough
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Of course you can choose who you are attracted to. If you couldn't then people would never fall out of love after the initial attraction.
That sounds profound. But I have no idea what you mean. Can you give me an example?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:38 am to Zach
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That sounds profound. But I have no idea what you mean. Can you give me an example?
Well say you meet somebody and you find them physically attractive but then you learn more about them as person and you decide you don't like who they are as person you find yourself no longer physically attracted to them cause you've made the choice not to be.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:41 am to Mickey Goldmill
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So how would that child feel if the drugs didnt work and he/she later found out what their parents tried to do?
He/She would probably feel like there was something wrong with them and that's the worst feeling a parent can put on a child.
So, it's not a risk issue in your opinion. Even with the absence of risk, you think this would be bad parenting?
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:44 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:41 am to constant cough
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Well say you meet somebody and you find them physically attractive but then you learn more about them as person and you decide you don't like who they are as person you find yourself no longer physically attracted to them cause you've made the choice not to be.
You didn't make the choice. It's innate. You make the choice whether or not to continue being that person but who you are and aren't attracted to isn't something you can just change your mind on back and forth as much as you want.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:46 am to moneyg
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So, it's not a risk think in your opinion. Even with the absence of risk, you think this would be bad parenting?
You're trying to change who the child you created is. Isn't it generally considered a bad thing when parents try to fundamently change who their older children are? Let your child be themselves. Guide them to make right choices in life, but don't control them.
If you try to change them in the womb, and it doesn't work yet you still treat them lovingly as they grow up, then Id say you're being a good parent, but it would still probably crush the child if they ever found out what you tried to do.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:46 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You didn't make the choice. It's innate. You make the choice whether or not to continue being that person but who you are and aren't attracted to isn't something you can just change your mind on back and forth as much as you want.
On a purely base physical level maybe so. But the human mind is more complex than that and you most certain can choose to be attracted or not attracted to somebody for a whole host of reasons.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:47 am to Zelig
Sounds like something out of Gattica.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:48 am to constant cough
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Well say you meet somebody and you find them physically attractive but then you learn more about them as person and you decide you don't like who they are as person you find yourself no longer physically attracted to them cause you've made the choice not to be.
I see. But the loss of attraction is due to non physical variables. You still have hard wiring toward the physical traits that first attracted you to her. So, the next girl with those same physical traits will attract you.
During my 3 years of dating between marriages I kept getting the same argument from friends.
Friend: Ya gotta ask this girl out. She's really smart. She's really sweet. She's got a great personality.
Me: She's overweight.
Friend: Why do you discriminate against girls who are a little overweight?
Me: I don't. But Mr. Pooter does.
Friend:
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:48 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Because there is no simple, single gay gene. To think there is or that one would be discovered is idiotically simplistic.
Never said there was... and never cared.
But ... we were told that there was one ... and that scientists were looking for it and would find it ... and validate the gay.
Of course, now ... the story has changed.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:50 am to constant cough
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On a purely base physical level maybe so. But the human mind is more complex than that and you most certain can choose to be attracted or not attracted to somebody for a whole host of reasons.
I can agree to that to an extent. Like when younger women go after the bad boy type yet later they want to settle down and form a family they go after a more mature and responsible type. But even then that doesn't change the fact that they are sexually attracted to the bad boy type. They just chose to stop pursuing it.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:52 am to Zach
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I see. But the loss of attraction is due to non physical variables. You still have hard wiring toward the physical traits that first attracted you to her. So, the next girl with those same physical traits will attract you.
But peoples physical traits also change over time. So if your attracted to a certain body style and say your woman gains weight are you still attracted to her?
I just think the human mind is more complex than base physical attraction but maybe I'm wrong. I'm certainly no expert on the matter.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:53 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You're trying to change who the child you created is. Isn't it generally considered a bad thing when parents try to fundamently change who their older children are? Let your child be themselves. Guide them to make right choices in life, but don't control them
I don't see a single thing wrong with a parent, who if given an option to check a box on a form, who would choose the sexual orientation of his child.
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If you try to change them in the womb, and it doesn't work yet you still treat them lovingly as they grow up, then Id say you're being a good parent, but it would still probably crush the child if they ever found out what you tried to do.
That would not be a major concern for me at all.
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