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re: Should sexual orientation be engineered in the womb?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:42 am to navy
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:42 am to navy
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They haven't figured out a good excuse yet for why the "gay gene" evidently cannot be discovered.
Because there is no simple, single gay gene. To think there is or that one would be discovered is idiotically simplistic. Theres still no diabetes gene, or hypertension gene, or prostate cancer gene etc etc but still a huge familial component to all of these.
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:45 am to constant cough
quote:IDK. Many folks would probably claim Leonardo da Vinci made society a better place. I thoroughly enjoy "Madman Across the Water". Don't know about the society thing in that instance. Plenty of women are dressed in some awfully nice designer clothes developed by gay men. I vote that as a societal improvement.
How are parents and society better off with gay kids that won't reproduce?
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:48 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Then if the first is gay, have another. They will love them both and the odds of one couple having multiple gay kids is remote.
Why should they have a gay kid if that's not what they want and there is a way to prevent it?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:52 am to constant cough
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Why should they have a gay kid if that's not what they want and there is a way to prevent it?
Never said they shouldn't be allowed to change it. I said the kid and society would be better off than having parents like that who will only love a certain type of child even if that child had no choice in how they were born.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:55 am to Mickey Goldmill
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I've also learned that a woman's womb is naturally inclined to make the fetus a female.
It's my understanding that we all start off with a female brain. Hormones kick in during the early development stages and change sexuality for the people that have the aligning anatomy.
So I guess we are all conceived gay.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:55 am to constant cough
Who cares if your kid is gay? You are going to love them regardless. Improve the odds of eventually having grand kids by having more than one child....if that's important to you.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:56 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Never said they shouldn't be allowed to change it. I said the kid and society would be better off than having parents like that who will only love a certain type of child even if that child had no choice in how they were born.
Well the kid might be better off but I'm still not sure how society benefits from people having gay sex?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:08 am to constant cough
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Well the kid might be better off but I'm still not sure how society benefits from people having gay sex?
Fewer shitty parents and people that would do that, the better.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:14 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Fewer shitty parents and people that would do that, the better.
Not wanting your kid to turn out gay makes somebody a shitty parent? Please.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:18 am to constant cough
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Not wanting your kid to turn out gay makes somebody a shitty parent? Please.
Where did I say that? Choosing to take highly risky drugs in order to make sure they aren't gay or choosing to have an abortion solely because they are gay makes them shitty.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:18 am to constant cough
quote:I cited several. How many examples do you need?
Well the kid might be better off but I'm still not sure how society benefits from people having gay sex?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:20 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Where did I say that? Choosing to take highly risky drugs in order to make sure they aren't gay or choosing to have an abortion solely because they are gay makes them shitty.
Ah, you see you're not supposed to judge women who have abortions or the reasons they choose to do so.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:30 am to constant cough
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Ah, you see you're not supposed to judge women who have abortions or the reasons they choose to do so.
Nice rebuttal lol
ETA: You said yourself the kid might be better off not having parents like that.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:35 am to navy
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Can clone a sheep.
Still no "gay gene" discovered.
I was told in the 90s that the "gay gene" would be discovered very soon.
gay gene:global warming
Except then global warming became "climate change"
They haven't figured out a good excuse yet for why the "gay gene" evidently cannot be discovered.
You must be a biology major with a concentration in human genetics.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:53 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Nice rebuttal lol
ETA: You said yourself the kid might be better off not having parents like that.
I said or at least I meant a gay kid would be better off having parents that don't care if the kid is gay.
That doesn't mean that if there were an option for potential parents to know for sure that their kid would be straight that exercising that option makes them shitty parents.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:57 am to constant cough
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I said or at least I meant a gay kid would be better off having parents that don't care if the kid is gay.
That doesn't mean that if there were an option for potential parents to know for sure that their kid would be straight that exercising that option makes them shitty parents.
Even given the tremendous risks it involves? Is it really worth it at that point? And what if the drugs end up not working and your gay son finds out one day what you tried to do?
Shitty parents.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:07 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Never said they shouldn't be allowed to change it. I said the kid and society would be better off than having parents like that who will only love a certain type of child even if that child had no choice in how they were born.
You are making a leap there equating a parent would would make a choice (assuming no risk) is equivalent to a parent would wouldn't love a homosexual child.
As a parent, if a Dr. came and gave us the choice, I'd choose heterosexual...assuming there was no risk involved.
If there were a health risk involved in the therapy, of course I would not.
And of course, since we don't have this option today, if my child ended up being a homosexual, I would love him/her exactly as much if he/she was a heterosexual.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Even given the tremendous risks it involves?
What risks are you talking about?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:11 am to moneyg
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What risks are you talking about?
Medical risks from the link in the OP
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:12 am to moneyg
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You are making a leap there equating a parent would would make a choice (assuming no risk) is equivalent to a parent would wouldn't love a homosexual child.
So how would that child feel if the drugs didnt work and he/she later found out what their parents tried to do?
He/She would probably feel like there was something wrong with them and that's the worst feeling a parent can put on a child.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:13 am
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