When and if the nation collapses... how will you survive?

The nation will not collapse.

If it does move to Europe.

But it won't happen. Absurd.

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What's your long term plan in this regard?

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Move to my family's land in south Alabama and live off the land, no feds gonna get me there

If the nation collapses...i don't think i WANT to survive.


I'll tell Mrs. BHP "Your sister is prettier than you....and she is much better at sex!"


My death will be swift.





Note: Neither of those things are true.......WAIT. Just the "prettier part". Not certain about the sex part.

Drown myself in Bushwackers and Painkillers in the US/British Virgin Islands

Surviving is for fools. I'll be getting rich off of the collapse with my smuggling ring.

What's your long term plan in this regard?

At 64, this year... .

I did jump on the 'survival' wagon a few years back; for the sake of family. But I soon realized that I was by myself; and that the psychological character required for long term tolerance of extreme hardship and severe insecurity...just weren't there in them I hoped to 'save'. They most likely couldn't - nor even hold the desire - to survive in such a scenario as many in the world face on a daily basis.

I let it go. As my Faith/Belief system encompasses far beyond this mere few years and the particular evolutionary character aspect of them in my circle.

Infinite parallel universes - likely "many mansions" in Jesus speak - and an eternity of challenges, character-building *defeats* and victories all being part of the road to 'heaven'. That I know/believe this will likely be of little consolation to them that suffer without it...but that is out of the sphere of my own influence, and in theirs.

That said...I have much faith in the goodness of our people...once they get their heads out of their arses and a clarity of Vision is established. That coming Vision - brought on by the psychological effects that collapse - will be the catalyst for the clarity of Vision that will lay the ground work for what I suspect will be an evolutionary leap of unimaginable bounds.

I suspect that the greatest challenge to the next wave of humanity will not be based on bullets and survival food...but rather what VALUES become the very essence of our Perceptive Reality. We have a date with the Singularity - and as Quantum Physics bears witness - it will be our SUBJECTIVE belief that sets the table of our future Reality.

Our future is what we believe it to be; and to the degree that we believe.

My 2 cents. Good luck. Or God speed. Whichever fits your *world*.

Actually planted about 20 plum and peach trees yesterday and have been stocking our pond for a few years. If I need it, it will be there. If not, it will still be there to enjoy.

Move to family land in the boonies. Hopefully could get by on stored/hunted food until the crops take.

Lack of livestock is a problem that's hard to fix - not exactly easy to keep a buncha chickens, pigs and cows for a what-if scenario

Fuel is obviously a problem.

Water supply is redundant.

Security is pretty good but would need to mend some proverbial fences with some relatives I haven't seen in many years. They got some firepower so I'd need to ally with them or else take them out pretty quick. But I think they're friendly enough.

Ammo is okay but need to get into reloading. I keep meaning to but other shite including laziness keeps popping up.

I would think a lot of people, particularly on here, would know how to survive as the bulk of the posters on this board are pretty bright people who could come up with an intelligent game plan and perhaps already had experience......save for a few trolls.

Although I don't see a collapse in my lifetime (I'm 37) happening, I could easily see an anarchist society being formed but the gumbent would quell that rather quickly.

What would be your plan? I do think the South and NE would be ideal places to be if in fact that were to happen - access to the water/streams/ocean, abundant livestock and Texas already has experience defending our state....albeit unsuccessfully

I already grow my own food, collect and filter my water, and produce a good chunk of my electricity. I will be just fine.