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re: Siap, McShay and Hoge discuss Mettenberger...

Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:28 pm to
Well I dont see how any sane person could have Manziel or Bridgewater going in the 1st round either. None of these guys are 1st round NFL QBs.

Out of the top 3 QBs, Bortles translates the best to the NFL. Is he gonna be great? No. But I think hes a safer pick than Manziel and will be better than Bridgewater.

Thats the thing with this QB draft class though. All these "experts" act like Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel are the clear cut top 3 QBs. But based on what I have seen these guys do in college and at combine / pro day, I cant confidently say those guys will be better in the NFL than QBs like Mett, McCarron, Carr, Murray, etc.

Manziel is the most electrifying, but comes with a lot of questions about how he translates to the NFL. Bortles has the size, arm, tape, attitude, etc to be an NFL QB, but played against bad competition in college so his tape could be a bit misleading. And Bridgewater was the top guy a few months ago, but was bad at his pro day and he doesnt have the potential to be a great NFL QB. Could be a solid QB, like an Andy Dalton, but he wont be an elite NFL QB.

In 5 years from now, any of those guys could end up being the best QB in this class, and the top 3 guys could be out of the league. Mett and Carr have as high a ceiling as any QB in this draft class.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Well I dont see how any sane person could have Manziel or Bridgewater going in the 1st round either. None of these guys are 1st round NFL QBs.

Out of the top 3 QBs, Bortles translates the best to the NFL. Is he gonna be great? No. But I think hes a safer pick than Manziel and will be better than Bridgewater.
Disagree, Bridgewater is the most pro ready of the top QBs in this draft. He's had a bad stretch since his pro day. I actually think him sliding to the back half of the 1st Rd might be a good thing for him.

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Thats the thing with this QB draft class though. All these "experts" act like Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel are the clear cut top 3 QBs. But based on what I have seen these guys do in college and at combine / pro day, I cant confidently say those guys will be better in the NFL than QBs like Mett, McCarron, Carr, etc.

Manziel is the most electrifying, but comes with a lot of questions about how he translates to the NFL. Bortles has the size, arm, tape, attitude, etc to be an NFL QB, but played against bad competition in college so his tape could be a bit misleading. And Bridgewater was the top guy a few months ago, but was bad at his pro day and he doesnt have the potential to be a great NFL QB. Could be a solid QB, like an Andy Dalton, but he wont be an elite NFL QB.

In 5 years from now, any of those guys could end up being the best QB in this class, and the top 3 guys could be out of the league. Mett and Carr have as high a ceiling as any QB in this draft class.

I like Aaron Murray & Derek Carr out of all the guys in this draft.

Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Out of the top 3 QBs, Bortles translates the best to the NFL. Is he gonna be great? No. But I think hes a safer pick than Manziel and will be better than Bridgewater. Thats the thing with this QB draft class though. All these "experts" act like Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel are the clear cut top 3 QBs. But based on what I have seen these guys do in college and at combine / pro day, I cant confidently say those guys will be better in the NFL than QBs like Mett, McCarron, Carr, Murray, etc. Manziel is the most electrifying, but comes with a lot of questions about how he translates to the NFL. Bortles has the size, arm, tape, attitude, etc to be an NFL QB, but played against bad competition in college so his tape could be a bit misleading. And Bridgewater was the top guy a few months ago, but was bad at his pro day and he doesnt have the potential to be a great NFL QB. Could be a solid QB, like an Andy Dalton, but he wont be an elite NFL QB.


Most of this is wrong. Bortles tape is horrible. The guy is a one read QB with an average arm. Manziel is a poor man's Russell Wilson. Bridgewater is your guy with mobility, adequate height, above average arm, quick release, great accuracy, fundamentally sound, and the best football IQ in the past few years. There is a reason why he is compared to Aaron Rodgers, which I have believed for a while now. You need to re watch game tape and not just highlights to get an opinion. Bortles is another Jake Locker bust and Manziel can't do what he does in the NFL like that.

I like Mett with a dominate OL, good receivers and a couple years in a system. Carr can go anyway, but I think he'll be decent.
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