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Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:54 pm to Will Cover
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:54 pm to Will Cover
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As stated before, I have been able to substantiate allegations and have testimony from another employee, plus written proof. She used company equipment on company time. How do I know this? I can easily have IT look this up for me - but no need to ... the office is locked after hours.
You still haven't given us many details. Is she spending hours searching for other jobs while on the clock? I doubt somebody has watched her constantly to be able to prove anything. If another employee saw her on a job search site, that doesn't really tell you much. If she spent 10 minutes out of her day to look for a job, who cares? Unless she is falling behind in her work...
And using company equipment? Are you really making that big of a deal about this? I doubt she's costing the company more than pennies on the dollar by using the equipment to look for a job. You make it sound like she took a company car for a joy-ride or something. Do you check personal email at work? Do you look at TD? That's no worse because you are doing personal things at work, which should all be treated the same way unless we're talking about porn or something illegal.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:55 pm to Will Cover
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I believe we will have to agree to disagree. She used company property and time to handle a personal issue. If time sensitive in nature, she could have used a vacation or personal day to tend to this matter on her own time with her own equipment.
And you're posting personnel matters about a subordinate and inquiring about advice on discipline from strangers on a public message board.
At this point, you're just as wrong as she is, perhaps moreso because you're held to a higher standard as a manager.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:57 pm to moneyg
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It's also not his responsibility to employ someone while they search for said job.
What is your point? Are there any other random things that you'd like to say that a manager isn't responsible for?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:58 pm to Will Cover
So you never use company equipment to handle personal issues? Never make a personal phone call? Make a personal email?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:59 pm to Feral
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By the way, the fact that you're posting on a message board at 1:30 pm on a Tuesday tells me that you may be just as guilty of improper use of company equipment/time as she is.
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Also, you are no better than her coming on here and talking about her and your company no matter how anonymous. Just as unprofessional.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:03 pm to moneyg
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It's also not his responsibility to employ someone while they search for said job.
Yep bad hire. Fire. Move on.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:04 pm to SmellslikeKevinBacon
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So you never use company equipment to handle personal issues?
I have an iPad and my own personal cell phone.
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Never make a personal phone call? Make a personal email?
I keep all personal related issues separate. None of my friends or family members have my work phone number. If there is something that I need to look up, I use my iPad or personal cell phone.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:05 pm to Will Cover
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I am off today.
Prepare to be asked this every time you post to TD from now on..
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If there is something that I need to look up, I use my iPad or personal cell phone.
But still on company time..
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:06 pm to Will Cover
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She called me, for about the third time - she's a new employee of less than 60 days - identifying problem after problem inside her business. As I had told her previously, I am glad that you have identified all the problems we have, what is your proposed solution and what are you going to do to correct them?
There's the problem right there. You're not satisfied that she's managing her area properly. She's not coming to you with solutions, only problems. Now you want to use the "looking for another job" as a reason to write her up. Why don't you write her up for not fixing the damn problems in her area?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:06 pm to Will Cover
I don't think it is easy for will to fire this employee. Seems like he could have a potential "wrongful termination" suit on his hands. And he just gave this chicks lawyer all the ammunition he needs with this post if she finds out about it.
If I was Will, I would let this slide and hope she produces…he picked a wrong battle to go after her with.
If I was Will, I would let this slide and hope she produces…he picked a wrong battle to go after her with.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:07 pm to GrammarKnotsi
or have someone look back at all the old post history 
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:08 pm to Will Cover
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I have an iPad and my own personal cell phone.
On company time? Can not have it both ways. Your management above you will question your time management when you should be working on their time.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:09 pm to WildcatMike
Will, man…you should let this one go.
You just opened up a can of worms.
You just opened up a can of worms.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:09 pm to Will Cover
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I keep all personal related issues separate. None of my friends or family members have my work phone number. If there is something that I need to look up, I use my iPad or personal cell phone.
So you are doing personal things on company time. You are making a huge deal about using your personal ipad vs using your company issued laptop to look up something? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?! If I was your manager I would be more concerned that you are taking more time to switch to your ipad rather than just look up something on your work computer.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:11 pm to SUB
This has to be a troll thread...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:11 pm to Will Cover
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I keep all personal related issues separate. None of my friends or family members have my work phone number. If there is something that I need to look up, I use my iPad or personal cell phone.
Good hunting Ahab. This is your white whale. Sic em.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:14 pm to Will Cover
On company time
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:15 pm to Will Cover
If this is your mindset, I have a pretty good idea why she is seeking employment elsewhere.
I wouldn't worry too much about discipline or about replacing her. I'd start thinking about how to replace her replacement. They are going to be looking around soon enough.
I wouldn't worry too much about discipline or about replacing her. I'd start thinking about how to replace her replacement. They are going to be looking around soon enough.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:20 pm to Will Cover
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Will Cover
You're ridiculous. Anonymity doesn't preclude unethical behavior. You're just as bad as the next one except no one knows who you are. Have some ethics as a manager and handle this within your company.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:20 pm to Will Cover
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I keep all personal related issues separate. None of my friends or family members have my work phone number. If there is something that I need to look up, I use my iPad or personal cell phone.
And yet for someone so allegedly buttoned up in terms of professional conduct, you're posting personnel matters on an SEC sports message board and soliciting disciplinary advice from absolute strangers?
No offense, but if I'm your manager and I found all of this out, you're the one who'd be on the chopping block. Talking about company matters and asking for advice on disciplining subordinates on a message board >>>>>>> using company time/equipment to look for another job.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 3:26 pm
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