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re: Sir and Ma'am..... Do you use it?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:46 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:46 am to Mike da Tigah
Yes I do.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:47 am to WG_Dawg
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A child speaking to an adult to certainly be saying it.
Why?
Are those few words the only determining factor to politeness? So you're saying a child could not be considered polite by simply saying "Yes" or "No" in a direct and respectful manner to an adult?
I have just never seen where those words make any difference.
I still use it occasionally with much older people out of habit, but in no way would I feel "less" polite by engaging them in a polite and respectful way and answering a direct question with a direct yes or no.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:48 am to NoNameNeeded
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Saying "sir" and "ma'am" sounds like weakling submission, sort of like some act that would take place in a caste system or theocratic authoritarian society. It would be wise to break this habit if/when you plan on leaving the region, because people up north and out west will think you are basically a pushover or a beta wussy with an inferiority complex when they hear this and will try to walk all over you.
This kind of sir and ma'am nonsense is antiquated and belongs in the 1800s. Only brown nosers and arse kissers would be caught saying this stuff these days.
I can't fix the ignorance in the world, but I'd say that I also pretty much refuse to sacrifice my culture and the way I was raised so people don't misinterpret me or my intentions elsewhere. If they were really respectful or hospitable in the least they would be gracious enough to give people from the south this latitude, so those that aren't are clearly not respectful, and so not worth me sacrificing anything in myself to appease them in the first place.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:48 am to Mike da Tigah
of course, I was raised properly.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:49 am to LSUTygerFan
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yes, sir, i do.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:50 am to Mike da Tigah
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Sir and Ma'am..... Do you use it?
Yes, sir, I do.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:50 am to WG_Dawg
Seriously, try addressing people in that southern manner in a northern or western workforce environment or anywhere else and see how they will respond by thinking you're some sort of pushover, or else you will be thought of as the company's submissive bitch.
Outside of the south it is sort of queer to speak in that manner. You will come off looking like a servant or butler from archaic times.
Outside of the south it is sort of queer to speak in that manner. You will come off looking like a servant or butler from archaic times.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:50 am to NoNameNeeded
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This kind of sir and ma'am nonsense is antiquated and belongs in the 1800s. Only brown nosers and arse kissers would be caught saying this stuff these days.
While I certainly do feel it's antiquated, I don;t agree with the rest of this. It's cultural in nature and in almost no cases is it done for the reasons you suggest. I believe these guys absolutely that they are doing it, and insisting their kids do it, precisely because they feel it's part of being polite.
Now...as to WHY it seems to be such a sticking point for politeness given there are lots and lots of other things which I personally would consider far more important in determining that is something I'd like to know.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:52 am to WG_Dawg
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What if you don't know the person?
You find out? If somebody is nice to me, I just say thank you, not thank you mam/sir.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:54 am to NoNameNeeded
I disagree with this. Maybe this is just your experience or your viewpoint on the matter, which is cool. I work in the north east quite often and have never had this picture you are painting unfold at all.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:54 am to Mike da Tigah
As a good Catholic Cajun boy, you betcha. I'm not one of those godless Yankees
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:54 am to Mike da Tigah
Yes sir. I would get a backhand pretty quickly growing up if I didn't.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:54 am to NoNameNeeded
I've worked in the northeast and the Midwest. Also a brief stint in Alaska. You're being ignorant. That a not the case at all unless someone the person is just a "beta" to begin with.
Fwiw, I know a Vice President of an international company from Chicago and a CEO of an international company from Boston who say "yes sir" to everyone.
And nobody with actual money is looking at someone as a "servant" for saying sir... We have those types of people in the south as well, though. We call them $80k millionaires. Anyone who thinks that way are just pretentious.
Fwiw, I know a Vice President of an international company from Chicago and a CEO of an international company from Boston who say "yes sir" to everyone.
And nobody with actual money is looking at someone as a "servant" for saying sir... We have those types of people in the south as well, though. We call them $80k millionaires. Anyone who thinks that way are just pretentious.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:02 am
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:56 am to Mike da Tigah
Yes, but never with my parents. In fact, my pops always knew something was amiss when I answered him that way.
ETA: I never made my students say it since half of those heathens had some sort of problem with it, but simply asked that I at least get a "yes" or "no" out of them.
ETA: I never made my students say it since half of those heathens had some sort of problem with it, but simply asked that I at least get a "yes" or "no" out of them.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:57 am to Mike da Tigah
My supervisor is from the west coast. Drives them crazy when I say that to people. Says it makes me look beneath them. I say it's just a sign of respect and politeness.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:58 am to Mike da Tigah
Yes because I am from the South and I have manners 
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:00 am to Mike da Tigah
I use it. My kids use it. I correct other children when they are at my house.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:02 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Why?
Are those few words the only determining factor to politeness?
It's not about just politeness (that's some of it), it's about respect. A 10 year old talking to a 40 year old should show respect, and that is one of the easiest and most basic ways to do so.
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So you're saying a child could not be considered polite by simply saying "Yes" or "No" in a direct and respectful manner to an adult?
I never said anything remotely like that. If an adult asks a child something, especially a child other than their own, and the response is "yeah" or "no", then yes that is showing a lack of respect.
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I still use it occasionally with much older people out of habit
An adult is often much older than a child.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:03 am to NoNameNeeded
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Outside of the south it is sort of queer to speak in that manner
Good thing I live in the south then.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:04 am to NoNameNeeded
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Seriously, try addressing people in that southern manner in a northern or western workforce environment or anywhere else and see how they will respond by thinking you're some sort of pushover, or else you will be thought of as the company's submissive bitch.
Outside of the south it is sort of queer to speak in that manner. You will come off looking like a servant or butler from archaic times.
Sounds like you're just a dick with an agenda. Sir.
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