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re: Let us talk Les Miles for a second....

Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:10 am to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:10 am to
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the rest of the country thinks he's an idiot

Well our country is infested with knuckle-dragging idiots. So, I wouldn't put much stock in what the rest of the country says.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:18 am to
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I wouldn't put much stock in what the rest of the country says.


But we are supposed to just accept what yall say as the truth. Cmon man.....it cant be that simple.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:19 am to
Still looking for something I posted a while back hangover...that will answer your question. Standby chief.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:20 am to
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But we are supposed to just accept what yall say as the truth.


Considering our side has facts and stats as opposed to your side's insults and nothing, it might be a good idea.
Posted by blackjackjackson
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:30 am to
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rtr is a troll.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:33 am to
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a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families.


I think your giving me a little too much credit here BJ.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:34 am to
??????
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:45 am to
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Isn't the ultimate goal to win NCs?


The goal, for most sane/rational people, is to compete for SEC/national honors. No college administrator would write a performance guide for any coach which included the need to win a NC.

The fact that LSU has competed in multiple NC games and SECCGs under Miles should demonstrate to most reasonable people that he is meeting his goals. Certainly the leaders at LSU feel he is or he wouldn't be getting new contracts and pay raises.

The Miles success at LSU easily falls into the Top 3 to 5 coaching level in the nation. Like the man or not, like his coaching style or not, like who he plays at QB or not, but he has maintained LSU football for almost a decade at a level that has never been seen before in LSU football history.

Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:55 am to
ok ok ok...I cant find what I posted a while back. It was about a dozen reasons or more why "negas" have issues with Miles.

Basically what Geauxgert said on p. 14 summarizes quite well. Heres the cliff notes:

1. Better in-game clock mgmt. and use of time-outs.
2. Proactive instead of reactive in handling certain player/coach problems.
3. Showing up and having the team ready to play every game...particularly against clearly over-matched opponents.
4. Developing more of a killer instinct when we have a lead.
5. Less of a mule-headed offensive philosophy when things aren't working.
6. Sticking with players who have the "hot hand" in games where often times these guys disappear on the sidelines.
7. Answer questions directly when on camera...forego the "coach speak."

These are a few things he could do to get ppl off his back and he has made improvements in some areas.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:07 am to
Similar lists could be made for even the greatest of coachs. Expecting perfection out of anyone is ridiculous. And don't even bother saying you don't expect perfection, because you'd be lying.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:22 am to
So basically you've pointed out everything he's done wrong in the time that he's been here....


You expect SUPREME PERFECTION in a world where, in all reality, competing for SEC and national championships are about as close to perfection as you can get.. This isn't NCAA on the Xbox bro, you can't win every game by 45 points, have your QB throw for 500 yds, your RB rush for 250, two receivers with 150+ yards while signing every 5* recruit with a pulse.....



Your expectations are unrealistic and until you realize this, you will never be satisfied with the golden age of LSU football...



Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:32 am to
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Your expectations are unrealistic and until you realize this, you will never be satisfied with the golden age of LSU football...


in reality they'll just keep moving the bar, this is why we reach the "hate Miles" conclusion. They're simply looking for any justification they can find to support their dislike of him. If something they throw out is debunked, they just move on to something else.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:43 am to
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Similar lists could be made for even the greatest of coachs


We're not talking about other coaches...we're talking about ours. I guess Im lying then...no perfection.....just improvement.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:45 am to
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hate Miles


Why do you keep throwing out this word? No one hates miles. Are you being intentionally obtuse/hard-headed/blind?
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:47 am to
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Why do you keep throwing out this word?


I explained that in my post.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:59 am to
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We're not talking about other coaches...we're talking about ours.


And that invalidates my point how exactly?

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I guess Im lying then...no perfection.....just improvement.


About the only place Les's tenure can go from its current standing is perfect, so...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Are you being intentionally obtuse/hard-headed/blind?






Posted by Gray Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:09 pm to
Admit it, RTR (those initials betray you) most of the negative types are just crybabies. You among others didn't like the Miles hire and are nursing your butt hurt over this fact. Is Miles perfect, hell naw but perfection is impossible so you fixate on his mistakes. Instead you come in here and pontificate. If that is what it takes for you to validate yourself, then I suppose it serves a purpose.

Understand these painful facts:
1. Les Miles is a very good coach
2. Les Miles knows way more about football than you will ever know.
3. Les Miles knows more about the assets and liabilities of the players than you will ever know.
4. The people that really matter are pleased with Les Miles.

Painful, I know but that is just the way it is.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:39 pm to
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1. Les Miles is a very good coach


No arguments there.

quote:

2. Les Miles knows way more about football than you will ever know. 3. Les Miles knows more about the assets and liabilities of the players than you will ever know.


I wish this translated onto the field a little better at times.

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The people that really matter are pleased with Les Miles.


This is the only thing that really matters. And neither you or I, or any of your pals, are in this group. Agreed????

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34509 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:05 pm to
You lose
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