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re: WSJ goes on the offensive as they take aim at Rand.

Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:13 pm to
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He's a defense hawk which naturally runs up against the isolationism and cut spending across the board pubs like Rand.


Quickly reading over it, I see that too. And it falls in line to him leaning Rhino establishment as I first said. I noticed in that article, he addressed Rand's dad as an insipid isolationist. It's clear he didn't like and has a bias against his father, it's possible it's carried over to his son, it seems.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Most likely to point out that someone like Bush or Rubio from a swing state with more electoral votes would better the chances for the GOP to take the White House



Or to infer he's from a small, hick state.. so he must be an uneducated hick.

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There's only so much space for the shortcoming of politicians


Touche

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Political associations matter.


Again. What did it have to do with the statement he attempted to attach it to?

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There's a wealth of news media out there to consume. This is one man's take.


Just as there are opinions on news media, and I simply gave mine.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:17 pm to
ETA: Double post
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Quickly reading over it, I see that too. And it falls in line to him leaning Rhino establishment as I first said.


Y'all like to use that term a lot around here. It's like listening to Mark Levin. And in this case too I don't know exactly the point it is you're trying to make.

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I noticed in that article, he addressed Rand's dad as an insipid isolationist. It's clear he didn't like and has a bias against his father, it's possible it's carried over to his son, it seems.


If so, is it more likely that carry-over is due to personal vendetta or the fact that the father and son share similar ideological viewpoints with which he disagrees?
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Well let's get those faults out there. What are they?


Mr. Stephens covered them quite well.

My major concerns with him are:

1) Lack of executive experience. It's true that the same could be said of Obama, but Obama is a terrible president.

2) He close relationships with racists. I don't believe Rand is racist, quite the opposite actually. But he is far too friendly with people that say outrageously offensive things. I don't believe this would make him a bad president, but it certainly hurts his electability.

3) His supporters. Like his father, I think his supporters will ultimately hurt him far more than help. Look at the idiotic OP for confirmation of this point.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Or to infer he's from a small, hick state.. so he must be an uneducated hick.


You're giving the writer too little credit. .. to go along with your straw man argument.

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Again. What did it have to do with the statement he attempted to attach it to?


Perhaps to infer he may be espousing one thing while his personal and professional connections to certain people may point to something else.

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Just as there are opinions on news media, and I simply gave mine.


No problem with that on my end.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Or to infer he's from a small, hick state.. so he must be an uneducated hick.
Apparently these things only a concern when R's are running for President. It was never an issue for Clinton to be from an even smaller electoral state.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:23 pm to
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Only someone from Alabama could possibly think this discredits someone's column.

Just posted his bio. His views are likely a direct result of his upbringing, as anyone's is. How an article is written, often times, exposes their underlying views. Knowing a bit of their background can shed light on the purpose of certain statements made in opinion pieces.

FYI, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, John Roberts and Samuel Alito are all Ivy Leaguers, as well as Bush 41, Bush 43, Mitt Romney, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz to name a few. The conservatives in high government go to the same schools that the liberals go to.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123951 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Isn't it ironic that the conservative media is so willing to play the race card on the only Republican Presidential prospect who's actually making a good faith effort to reach out to minorities?
Ironic indeed.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18314 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:44 pm to
Rand has done extensive work to reach out to minorities plus he's on the record for saying how unfair the justice system is to them. Rand is speaking to urban league this summer and was invited by NAACP to do the same.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18314 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:46 pm to
Thomas was classmates with John Bolton and tried to claim him as a libertarian.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:27 pm to
so he's attempting to blast Paul for his lack of experience and sketchy associates?


would this be irony?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:29 pm to
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1) Lack of executive experience.


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he is far too friendly with people that say outrageously offensive things.


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I think his supporters will ultimately hurt him far more than help


hello 2008
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:39 pm to
Do you really not understand the difference between Obama and Paul? It really doesn't matter whether the double standard is fair or not.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Do you really not understand the difference between Obama and Paul?


i understand that the media propped him up as a Saviour and the sheeple took it hook, line, and sinker....which was kind of my point
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:44 pm
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