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re: Bundy/BLM: Sheriff: "Feds Strategizing for Raid"
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:27 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:27 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
You're arguing reasons for the protests.
No.
I'm.
Not.
I'm arguing against violence. Bundy threatened violence, and when the feds take him up on it, they will win. Yet all these yahoos don't care about right and wrong, they just want to play army - until shite gets hot. Then they will evaporate.
The problem Bundy is facing is that if he took the non-violent route and submitted to the penalty of law as the CR protesters did, no one would care because BUNDY HAS NO CLAIM.
Does it matter to you whether or not Bundy is right or wrong?
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:31 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
BUNDY HAS NO CLAIM.
Not even under equitable principles?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:32 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Bundy has all the rights in the world to stage a peacefull protest but he and his band of malcontents don't have the right to take up arms against the US Government. Nobody likes paying taxes and everyone would like free land but that is not the way it works in the USA. 
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:39 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Bundy threatened violence, and when the feds take him up on it, they will win. Yet all these yahoos don't care about right and wrong, they just want to play army - until shite gets hot. Then they will evaporate.
Or they run out of Natty Light, the official beer of militiamen everywhere.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:46 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Does it matter to you whether or not Bundy is right or wrong?
As far as to my argument that he has a right to protest, no. Bundy could likely end up in jail for whatever reason but for me that doesn't mean he did anything wrong by protesting.
I understand your opposition to the violence threat. I'm not too comfortable with that myself but apparently Bundy is and if he and those that believe in what he is doing are willing to put their life on the line, that's their choice.
Like I said, history will decide if Bundy becomes a hero or a goat but I hope to hell that history agrees he had the right to protest. If not, we're dead as a freedom loving nation.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:47 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Does it matter to you whether or not Bundy is right or wrong?
The real problem is that our government stopped caring about right/wrong a long time ago. Eventually people reach a tipping point against perceived bias, regardless of how true/false it is. When both sides stop caring, the law gets thrown out the window. His attitude is a reflection on that.
In short, I'm not sure if it's relevant anymore.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 9:50 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:48 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Yet another that doesn't get it. If you think this is about cows, you're missing the boat.
Does it matter to you whether or not Bundy is right or wrong?
quote:
Certainly, Bundy is a flawed person and not completely in the right. But, he doesn't have to be. Being a complacent law-abiding citizen isn't what he represents.
What he does represent is someone brave (or stupid) enough to be a shining symbol of saying "enough is enough" to the bullies in our government that treats a fair number of its citizens pretty damn shabbily.
That is why he's garnering such wide support. This incident clearly shows just how much many are craving that brave out-front declaration of "enough is enough".
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 9:53 am
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