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re: Matthew McConaughey, though a great actor, is the same in every role

Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:57 pm to
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True. Can't argue against that. But to claim that he's the same character because of that is to totally dismiss much of his filmography, which is deny history and facts, which makes mizzoukills' argument completely and inexhaustibly flawed. And stupid.


Agreed. The entire "limited range" argument is stupid because we give some people a pass for it and we demonize others for it. (I'm not agreeing that MM is limited.)

For example, there are people that make their career on a certain type of role and thats all they can do. Seth Rogen comes to mind. Seth Rogen can play stoner/slacker. You try to put Seth Rogen in an action film, you get a turd of a movie like Green Hornet.

Then there are actors that get famous for a type of role but do have range. Jim Carrey is Jim Carrey in every role hes ever been in with the exception of Truman Show and The Majestic. He got a lot of press for Truman Show, and rightfully so, and got snubbed for all the major awards. Majestic just wasn't a very good movie, through no fault of Carrey. But people had a hard time seeing Jim Carrey not be Jim Carrey and his performances in those two films, especially Truman Show, were overlooked.

But guys like Clint Eastwood and Tommy Lee Jones play the exact same guy in every movie, right down to the scowls. Noone ever gives Clint shite about playing a version of the Man with No Name/ Josey Wales in Unforgiven. Perhaps its because they are more selective of their work and wont do anything with a paycheck.

I think MM made his money doing RomComs and playing a certain character, and has earned enough box office draw to be selective about his roles. Mud, Dallas Buyers Club, True Detective were all big departures from his typical work, and all were very well received. If you were paying attention, you should've seen shades of this in A Time To Kill.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:17 pm to
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Then there are actors that get famous for a type of role but do have range. Jim Carrey is Jim Carrey in every role hes ever been in with the exception of Truman Show and The Majestic. He got a lot of press for Truman Show, and rightfully so, and got snubbed for all the major awards. Majestic just wasn't a very good movie, through no fault of Carrey. But people had a hard time seeing Jim Carrey not be Jim Carrey and his performances in those two films, especially Truman Show, were overlooked.


I think you left out Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but otherwise I agree with you.

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you should've seen shades of this in A Time To Kill.


I think he over acted a bit in A Time to Kill. He wasn't the worst though in that movie. Samuel L on the stand was somewhat comical to me. Maybe I'm just an a-hole though.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:18 pm to
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I think MM made his money doing RomComs and playing a certain character, and has earned enough box office draw to be selective about his roles. Mud, Dallas Buyers Club, True Detective were all big departures from his typical work, and all were very well received. If you were paying attention, you should've seen shades of this in A Time To Kill.


And Amistad. And Lincoln Lawyer. And a couple other solid flicks he's made.

But yeah, Jim Carrey has some damn chops. Dude is great in Eternal Sunshine. fricking gut-wrenching performance.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:19 pm to
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you should've seen shades of this in A Time To Kill.


I think he over acted a bit in A Time to Kill.


I think that's why he said "shades" as opposed to saying that A Time to Kill is on a level with Dallas Buyers' Club.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:27 pm to
For the most part you're right, but he did "disappear into his role" as Rust Cohle
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:41 pm to
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If you think he's the same character in Mud as he is in Failure to Launch as he is in A Time to Kill as he is in Reign of Fire as he is in Dallas Buyers Club, I weep for you.



He is...he's just having either a better or worse day in each one of those movies.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:41 pm to
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I think you left out Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but otherwise I agree with you.


also Man on the Moon
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:46 pm to
0/10 troll attempt
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:51 pm to
I find the attacks in this thread interesting, considering I flat out stated that I think he's a fine actor and that I really enjoy his movies.


Some people develop blind boners for famous people and cannot understand criticism of said individuals.

Question? Is Costner himself in his movies?
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:53 pm to
Can you explain what you mean when you say he's the same in every role?
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Matthew McConaughey, though a great actor, is the same in every role


So is Harrison Ford. Christian Bale. Daniel Craig.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Can you explain what you mean when you say he's the same in every role?


No, he can't.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:59 pm to
I mean that you could put all of those characters in the real world and they all are either Matthew having a very good day, and somewhat bad day, or an incredibly shitty day.

Regardless, he's MM in every role.

His characters never make me forget for a moment that MM is acting that character. I'm always entertained, but I'm entertained because it is MM.

On the other hand, Daniel Day Lewis makes me forget who is portraying the character. The character becomes a living breathing entity on film who is totally believable. What's amazing about DDL is that he completely disappears in nearly every role.

MM, though perhaps inching closer to being able to achieve that, has not yet done so.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:02 pm to
Do you know MM personally? How do you know it's him being him?
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Do you know MM personally? How do you know it's him being him?


How do we all know Harrison Ford or Costner are pretty much playing themselves.

But your question is thought provoking. By that logic, all actors are incredible character actors.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
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I mean that you could put all of those characters in the real world and they all are either Matthew having a very good day, and somewhat bad day, or an incredibly shitty day.
I still don't follow.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:07 pm to
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Regardless if he's playing a 1970s stoner has been, an American dragon slaying soldier in Britain, a psycho in Texas Chainsaw Next Generation, a lawyer, a wall street mentor, a pedo chicken wing fetish serial killer, Mud, or a man afflicted with AIDS...he's very much the same character in all of these movies.

He plays MM very well in each movie. When he landed the perfect script (Dallas Buyers) and shed a shocking amount of weight for the role, the MM role suddenly became deserving of the most prestigious acting award.

And let me be clear...he deserved that award.

But make no mistake, he's MM in every role. Sometimes actors play themselves so well that their IRL persona is deserving of an Academy Award because they're so damn interesting to watch on film.

As far as range, he's very much in Costner's league.


Agreed. I don;t think there's anything wrong with that, either. Costner's a good example. Harrison Ford is another. Hell...Clint Eastwood fits the same bill. Provided those guys find the right roles, they shine. I can;t honestly say I've seen MM in a movie and I've disliked his performance. Just saw Mud the other night and I actually thought he was better in that than Dallas Buyer's Club.

You'll catch shite for this, but the guy isn't Tom Hanks or Day-Lewis in terms of becoming someone else. Very few are, which is why I don;t see the controversy in what you wrote.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:07 pm to
clearly you don't.
Posted by ASTL
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:10 pm to
So what is the point of this thread?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
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You'll catch shite for this, but the guy isn't Tom Hanks


Funny, I was just about to add Tom Hanks to the list of people that plays the same role in every movie. Save Forrest Gump, I don't think Hanks plays drastically different characters from one movie to the next.

Daniel Day Lewis is a different animal alltogether. His penchant for playing in biopic period pieces allow people to disassociate him from the characters.
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