I've read all that before and agree with most of it.

But you have to remember the draft is about long term and not just instant starters. 3rd rounders are expected to start eventually and/or be key role players. So I include them with the first and second round because they all should have starting potential.

Rounds 4-7 is where teams try to find gems, key special teams players, and guys that could do spot starts if needed.

So yeah we have found some better than expected players late, but so have many other teams.

I'm just pointing out that, while maybe lower than most teams, we still have a high number of misses (a lot of which didn't make the team or didn't even contribute much to special teams).

So again, I'm not saying we don't hit on late rounders or that we aren't around the top of the league. I'm saying the notion that some people have that we suck at rounds 1 and 2 and can hit on late rounders almost at will is quite silly.

We are better at rounds 1 and 2 and still good at the late rounds, but not insanely good. Just better than most.

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Posted by adono

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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:51 pm to bonethug0108

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We are better at rounds 1 and 2 and still good at the late rounds, but not insanely good. Just better than most.

They should be but they aren't when everything is throw into the equation.

I contend that the team's success in finding starters in the late rounds and UFA far outweighs any arguable success they've had in the 1st and 2nd rounds. The only real success (meaning, performance = cost) they've had is Jordon and Porter. As I pointer out in an earlier post, the other 1st and 2nd rounders did not create value compared to their cost (Ingram is on the new rookie scale so the salary is less important than the 2 picks given up).

Finding a Colston, Strief, Nicks, Graham, White, and Stills is a greater feat than picking a Jordan or Porter...because they were expected to play right away and were paid as such.

There is a reason Vegas pays 35 to 1 putting money on #10 and 1 to 1 on money place on red in roulette...the odds of picking the winner are considerably harder.

When you throw in their success in getting quality players in UFAs, it clearly shows our this staff does much better finding talent at the shallow end of the pool.

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The New Orleans Saints have used six undrafted rookies in their lineup this season after defensive end Glenn Foster and tailback Khiry Robinson made their debuts last Sunday. (The others are guard Tim Lelito, tight end Josh Hill, linebacker Kevin Reddick and cornerback Rod Sweeting.) According to ESPN Stats & Information, that’s tied, with Cleveland, for the most in the NFL.

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But that’s nothing new around New Orleans during the Sean Payton era.

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According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Saints have used a total of 64 undrafted players since 2006, the third most in the NFL. The league average is 47 during that span. And dating back to 2008, the Saints have had undrafted players take 22.3 percent of all offensive or defensive snaps, the fifth most in the NFL.

ESPN

This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 1:13 pm

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