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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Livingdead
Mobile Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
149 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:09 pm to
In my native contry Venezuela it is about 25 cents a gallon.

But toilet paper and other commodies are expensive and hard to find these days.

I typical smart phone costs about 3 times as much if you can find one.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8399 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Considering the amount of work that goes into drilling for oil, shipping that oil, refining it, and then shipping that product to gas station a quarter of a mile from my house, 3 bucks a gallon seems like a steal.


nothing truer has ever been said on TD's.....and yet you have 4 downvotes

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Considering the amount of work that goes into drilling for oil, shipping that oil, refining it, and then shipping that product to gas station a quarter of a mile from my house, 3 bucks a gallon seems like a steal.



Price of gas is based purely on the market, not on *production costs.
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:27 pm to
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It is being blamed on the change over from winter to summer gas.
It's possible that this contributes, but I doubt it is the main cause. Producers are able to prepare for this to a certain extent; at least enough to prevent this rapid of a price change. 10-15% over a couple week period seems pretty extreme for an event that can be planned for.

I'd argue that it has more to do with the Ukranian/Russia situation. Events like this raise uncertainty about future supply availabilities of crude in the global market. Increased uncertainty increases precautionary demand which increases price; and things are very uncertain right now.

Lutz Killian had a decent paper on this a few years back, that somehow got picked up by AER, called something like "Not all oil price shocks are alike". I don't like his last set of regressions, but his breakdown of various contributions to the evolution of oil prices is very revealing. And very relevant to the currently unstable state of world politics.

On that note, I'd venture that if you went check out oil trading patterns on NYMEX that you would find a large increase in the price and quantity of puts since escalation in Ukraine. Refiners are going to want to protect themselves from the possibility of a massive supply cutoff, so they purchase future options at higher than current prices, thereby driving current prices up.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
7725 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Shall we compare US gas prices to those of every other Western country?


Don't forget to break down why those costs are so much higher in your feel good analysis. Taxes tacked on are much higher to pay for their Socialistic handouts. We're getting there...you'll be happy soon enough.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:32 pm to
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Don't forget to break down why those costs are so much higher in your feel good analysis. Taxes tacked on are much higher to pay for their Socialistic handouts. We're getting there...you'll be happy soon enough.



Louisiana Motor Fuel Excise tax is 20 cents a gallon.

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:43 pm to
People who complain about gas prices annoy the shite out of me.

In 2008, we saw gas prices hit $4 in 2008. While they declined quite a bit, they ramped back up to $4 in 2011.

So the thing is, its readily apparent, we need to come to grips with $3-4 gas. If you haven't changed your life to deal with this and it matters to you, you are a fricking idiot.

Get rid of the truck, get a hybrid, take the bus, move. There are a lot of ways to reduce your gas costs. have you done any of these or do you sit there and just bitch?
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
7725 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:58 pm to
People who read threads about things that are sure to have the shite annoyed out of them and announce it annoy the shite out of me.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:17 pm to
I am annoyed b.c you are annoyed.

BOOM.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
7725 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:23 pm to
"Your brain has a shell on it."
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4730 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:24 pm to
Supply and demand
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45738 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Forget 2008, my current gas price is over $4/gallon.

Same here...we're at $4.25 for regular unleaded. About 3 weeks ago it was $3.80'ish
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
7725 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:27 pm to
By the way, saying BOOM in your own thread is liking giving yourself a nickname. Do you live in your mom's basement?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:32 pm to
It is pretty crazy. A gallon of gas used to be a good bit cheaper than a gallon of milk.

But I guess they can extract large amounts of oil at a time whereas for milk they have to hook cows up to machines to suck on their tits for a while. Takes a lot longer.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

By the way, saying BOOM in your own thread is liking giving yourself a nickname. Do you live in your mom's basement?


No, i live in my grandmother's. She is more ok with me dressing up as a furry. She only has one grandson, and just treasures me.

My mother doesn't like my furry outfit at all, she says its weird and unbecoming
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:05 pm to
I don't think he was complaining about the price of gas as much as he was hinting on the fact the Democrats went out in full force demanding something be done and that it was all Bushes fault. Fast FOWARD till today and the prices are even higher that it was when they were making a big deal about it and not a peep from the hill

Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18075 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:21 pm to
Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
1546 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

Gas prices reached their peak in 2008 at just over 4$ a gallon. People will start talking about the issue again when prices hit that level.


gas prices have been over $3 for so long that it doesn't even piss me off when it goes up 10cents or so. Now a 20 cent jump gets my attention. The other day I had enough points build up on my kroger card that I bought for $2.98.
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22316 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 1:18 am to
As others have said, lifting the crude oil out of the ground, refining it, blending the gas up(gas just isn't gas typically, different grades for different parts of the country), putting it in the pipeline, vessel or barge for delivery to a loading rack, then into the truck to deliver it to the station, add in your bullshite ethanol and mandatory detergent additive and 3.50 a gallon is pretty cheap.
Posted by PacLSU
I have been a
Member since Sep 2003
3630 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:04 am to
quote:

As others have said, lifting the crude oil out of the ground, refining it, blending the gas up(gas just isn't gas typically, different grades for different parts of the country), putting it in the pipeline, vessel or barge for delivery to a loading rack, then into the truck to deliver it to the station, add in your bull shite ethanol and mandatory detergent additive and 3.50 a gallon is pretty cheap.

I'd say $3.50 is just about right after you add taxes. If it cost more to do all you mentioned, gas would be more expensive.
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