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re: The Case for Ra'Shede Hageman

Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:49 am to
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I'm still typing up my "ha ha assholes saints weren't interested in kenny britt at all" thread.


Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:06 am to
Raw but talented, just a matter of how high and real you grade his potential. More likely gone than available at #27 prolly.

Scouting report blurbs-

Hageman is obviously well rounded, but he could stand to get more consistent. Hageman can take over games at times, but also has some quiet stretches. For the NFL, it would probably help him to improve his conditioning.
Hageman has great versatility for the NFL after playing a wide variety of techniques at Minnesota. He could play 4-3 defensive tackle and even some left defensive end in heavy sets. Hageman would be a great fit in a 3-4 defense because he has the ability to play defensive end or nose tackle. Hageman is a good fit as a five-technique (defensive end) or zero-technique (nose tackle).

Hageman will be one of the hottest prospects in the 2014 class in the spring. He will tantalize evaluators with his freakish athleticism and superior physical dimensions, but his game tape doesn't match his natural talent at this time. Although Hageman's production has been solid over the past two years, he hasn't dominated elite competition consistently. Additionally, he has shown an unrefined game that needs some touch-up work by a quality NFL defensive line coach.
Based on his size, athleticism, versatility and overall potential, I believe Hageman will get drafted much higher than his film grade would suggest. While I would rate him as a second-round player (rotational player with the potential to start by the end of his first season), I believe several teams will view him as a late first-round talent based on his upside and potential. If he puts in the work on the practice field and film room, Hageman could be the kind of difference-maker that transforms a good defense into a great one. However, there is no guarantee that he will ever reach his potential despite his remarkable talent, which is why he could fall into the "boom-or-bust" category by draft day

Hageman was a tight end in college who converted to the defensive line as a redshirt freshman. Still quite raw, he improved by leaps and bounds each year, and in 2013 was a Third-team AP All-American and first-team All-Big Ten selection. He led Minnesota with 13.0 tackles for loss last season in addition to 38 tackles, 2.0 sacks and one interception. For his career he notched 91 tackles, 24.0 tackles for loss, 10.0 sacks, two fumbles forced and one pick.

Critics note he needs to play with better leverage, and that he will be a tad old for a rookie at 24. However, there is no denying Hageman’s pure skills and that he has the potential to be a home run selection for whichever team drafts him.

Some concerns that have been said about Hageman in the past is what can seem like an off-again, on-again level of motivation. When he's focused, he's utterly dominant, but he isn't displaying that kind of effort on every play. At the same time, a quality support structure around him and an outstanding defensive line coach can help continue building his technique and his focus.
In the right environment, it wouldn't be surprising to see Hageman end up one of the better 3-technique defensive tackles or 5-technique defensive ends in the NFL.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:21 am
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