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re: Engineers/Construction Workers?
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:47 pm to TunaTime
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:47 pm to TunaTime
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I was just wondering if people thought PM's were dumbasses too like the engineers. Or if they are more "respected" by the field guys.
I was told by an old timer that the first thing that an engineer does when getting PM, is get castrated. They essentially become "yes" men to their supervisors and clients. There is no such thing as "that wont work" or "we cant do it in that time frame" to a PM. they say yes and then push their guys to get it done. Thats Managing 101. Its the nature of the beast that some PMs write checks that their guys cant cash. In my experience, most of the time its the client and their expectations/experience/etc that makes a PM look bad. Good clients know that when engineering is pushed, the field catches hell.
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:26 am to AutoYes_Clown
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I was told by an old timer that the first thing that an engineer does when getting PM, is get castrated. They essentially become "yes" men to their supervisors and clients. There is no such thing as "that wont work" or "we cant do it in that time frame" to a PM. they say yes and then push their guys to get it done. Thats Managing 101. Its the nature of the beast that some PMs write checks that their guys cant cash. In my experience, most of the time its the client and their expectations/experience/etc that makes a PM look bad. Good clients know that when engineering is pushed, the field catches hell.
This is correct to an extent, but I've also had some PM's who would go to bat for you like General Patton.
Also depends a lot on whether it's a hard money or reimbursable job. If it's a reimbursable job and they ask him to take a steamer on your chest he's gonna say ok and send them a bill.
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