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re: History Debate: Ulysses S. Grant vs. Robert E. Lee
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:03 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:03 pm to bencoleman
quote:No. What's bizarre is anyone understating it.
Whats bizarre is your need to remind everyone
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 6:23 am to NC_Tigah
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What's bizarre is anyone understating it.
I don't think he is understating it personally. I think he is trying to discuss slavery more from an 1860's mentality.
While it's true many people viewed slavery as evil then, even those who viewed it as evil probably did not view it as negatively as we do today. We are a generation raised and conditioned to think and feel this way.
Leading up to the 1860's, slavery was a commonplace institution throughout the world. Think of it this way:
How would a white plantation owner who owned slaves have been treated in public in the 1830's? How would a white corporate exec be treated if he owned 50 black slaves today by comparison?
The discussion of societal impacts of slavery before the war eventually gets bogged down in issues of perspective. How we feel about slavery today doesn't have much bearing on discussing how people reacted to slavery 170 years ago.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 6:25 am
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:48 am to NC_Tigah
quote:You're talking to someone who thought "The South Was Right" was a great book.
NC_Tigah
I wasn't exaggerating when I said it's the hardcover equivalent to a PoliBoard circle jerk. They bring up interesting ideas, sure, and they do share some facts, but the point of the book is in the title.
The south was right. About everything. There can be no deviation from that point. Whatever the south did, it did in reaction to a negative northern action. The slaves were treated well; the badness of slavery is overstated.
It cherry picks quotes from the Slave Narratives and uses them to make slavery seem almost like a happy, fun place where idiotic blacks loved their massa and didn't want to be free.
It's a ridiculous book, and I'm sorry, but if someone reads it and feels that it's great and gives you a real history of how things were and why, you're better of not talking to them.
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