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re: Do you believe the US will win a World Cup in your lifetime?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 5:43 pm to betweenthebara
Posted on 3/29/14 at 5:43 pm to betweenthebara
Yes unless I die before June
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 6:52 pm to betweenthebara
Yes. I will always believe. To think about how far we have come since the early 90's, yes I have hope remember. Remember that before this, US soccer virtually did not exist. 50 years without a WC appearance, and now we are arguably the class of CONCACAF.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 7:01 pm to betweenthebara
Nope
Posted on 3/29/14 at 7:05 pm to djangochained
I don't think there's any chance at all.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:46 pm to betweenthebara
Absolutely. If you do not believe in your team, then gtfo.
We will win a major trophy before Arsenal as well.
We will win a major trophy before Arsenal as well.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:24 pm to betweenthebara
I'm 23 and I'll be surprised if we don't win at least one before I'm 50.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:35 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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We will win a major trophy before Arsenal as well.
CONCACAF Gold Cup not major enough for you?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:05 pm to itawambadog
I should have said another trophy.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:09 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I don't think there's any chance at all.
Well that's just dumb to assume that there is no chance at all.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:22 pm to crazy4lsu
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It's not as if other countries will simply stop producing players. Even with our best athletes playing, I'm skeptical given the current state of development of our youth.
You act as if it's never going to change. I think Jurgen is trying to overhaul it as we speak. He is the one who came in and said the pay to play model was crap and totally backwards to the way that everyone else does it. It took England for freaking ever to realize that technical players were the important ones, and not the brutish punt and run types. I think that likewise it will take us a bit of time to adapt, but the changes have already started and I have a pretty positive outlook on what the future holds. I mean shite we got to the quarter finals and really should have gotten to the semis of the 02 tournament, and our development is miles better now than it was then, with most of the change coming about in the past five years.
Think about the MLS academies for instance. Agudelo was the first one signed by the league if my memory serves me right, and now we have homegrown guys like Palmer-Brown getting looks from Juventus. I mean shite, I know 1mil isn't a lot to Juve but they wanted to buy a 16 year old from one of OUR academies. I think that speaks pretty well to the progress we've made recently and the direction we are headed. I'm pretty sure EPB will start to become the rule more than the exception in the next ten years, at which time we will really start to see the academies start churning out the talent.
To answer the OP, at my current age I'm planning on watching the next 20 World Cups. I think we win one of them.
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If we can get Green, Zelalem (assuming we get him), and the young guys at the La Liga academies to pan out, we will make some noise in 2022.
Pynadath will be 20 during the 2022 WC, while Lederman will either be 21 or 22. Not sure how much either will play... it's kind of hard to predict that far in advance.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:36 pm to cwil177
I'm sorta like Dr. Who so I'll see every World Cup till the end of time but it will be in different bodies.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:54 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I don't think there's any chance at all.
Maybe there's a slight chance but things would need to change dramatically in terms of the type/quality players we produce, say, 30 years from now.
However, consider how long it took powers like France and Spain (who only has one other top 4 finish ever) to recently get their first and that Holland is still yet to win one.
Just seeing a US team actually measure up in terms of quality across the pitch with some of these powers even if we lose would be quite an achievement.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 1:11 am to wm72
It would have to be like when the Saints won the SB in 2009. A combination of an extremely talented team with everything breaking their way at just the right time. As someone had said earlier, 2002 was starting to look that way but the US ran into an incredibly hot goalkeeper in Oliver Kahn and had that controversial handball non call on the line in the 2nd half. Which brings up another point in that the US will have to approach it with a fighter's "knock the guy out and don't depend on the judges" mentality. If FIFA has any say, you know the US gets the short end on that.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:20 am to EastBankTiger
quote:i think we see them do this in Brazil, because most of the teams we will play will be significantly better.
"knock the guy out and don't depend on the judges" mentality
Posted on 3/30/14 at 9:54 am to cwil177
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You act as if it's never going to change. I think Jurgen is trying to overhaul it as we speak. He is the one who came in and said the pay to play model was crap and totally backwards to the way that everyone else does it. It took England for freaking ever to realize that technical players were the important ones, and not the brutish punt and run types. I think that likewise it will take us a bit of time to adapt, but the changes have already started and I have a pretty positive outlook on what the future holds.
I'm pessimistic about the future because it's not as if other countries are standing still. And these countries that want to win a WC have a longer tradition of producing players. We are starting from scratch. I would say the same about Japan, South Korea, and Australia. That's not to say that there are some African countries on the cusp of economic liberalization who are in a better position to produce a golden generation than we are.
The fact that this is the deepest WC ever portends a future where every team is competitive, which was impossible to even conceive in 1994. Winning the WC is going to be so hard that I won't take it for granted that we are going to win one just because we are the best sporting nation in nearly every other sport.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:36 am to crazy4lsu
With time to reflect, I'm not sure that 2002 wasn't the best chance I'll see in my lifetime.
Beat Germany in the quarters (which we kind of did), match up with South Korea in the semis, and face Brazil in the final.
Our chances to beat Brazil wouldn't have been great, but Friedel was dominant in that tournament and our midfield and forwards (McBride, Mathis, Donovan, Beasley, O'Brien, Reyna, Lewis, Wolff, Moore, Jones, Stewart - hell even Mastroeni) were all in unbelievable form.
That game against Germany is a MUCH bigger "what if" moment for US Soccer than any teenager somewhere in Europe. The trajectory of MLS and US Soccer in general is far different if we play Brazil in the final, win or lose.
Beat Germany in the quarters (which we kind of did), match up with South Korea in the semis, and face Brazil in the final.
Our chances to beat Brazil wouldn't have been great, but Friedel was dominant in that tournament and our midfield and forwards (McBride, Mathis, Donovan, Beasley, O'Brien, Reyna, Lewis, Wolff, Moore, Jones, Stewart - hell even Mastroeni) were all in unbelievable form.
That game against Germany is a MUCH bigger "what if" moment for US Soccer than any teenager somewhere in Europe. The trajectory of MLS and US Soccer in general is far different if we play Brazil in the final, win or lose.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:48 am to Sheep
The "what ifs" make me even angrier about that no call handball.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 1:06 pm to betweenthebara
Our best showing was in the 30s with players that were born in Europe. The answer is no. Soccer is popular here, but in reality the money isn't as good as other sports. Basically we need to be handing soccer balls out in the ghettos instead of basketballs. Its the easiest sport to play. You need something round and you can create a goal out of rocks. That's why these poor arse countries are so good. Cus soccer is the easiest cheapest sport to play. Pele learned to play with fricking coconuts. We will probably never win a world cup.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 1:11 pm to EastBankTiger
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It would have to be like when the Saints won the SB in 2009.
Nope. We don't have a drew brees talent walking through the door any time soon. There is the diff. All the best American football players are attainable by any franchise in the NFL. We can never have the best soccer player in the world. They don't reside here, we can't just offer them 60 mil to switch teams.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 1:26 pm to dgnx6
If we luck out in the group draw and some upsets happen in other groups and knockout games who knows what can happen. We could end up being like Paraguay in the last World Cup.
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